 GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to d4m1r
Re: Major CRTC decision next week. - CBB said by d4m1r:Even if I could get 50/10 or whatever through DSL today, I wouldn't switch away from cable.
Sorry to be so blunt but the CRTC should have taken this into account, forgotten about DSL, and solely focused on making faster cable packages available to everyone and for a decent price, with very high usage caps (if not unlimited).
Sorry, I'd take 50/10 DSL over 60/3 cable any day of the week.
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@videotron.ca | said by Guspaz:Sorry, I'd take 50/10 DSL over 60/3 cable any day of the week.
That 3-meg upload is changing to 10-meg in April. Is it not? |
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mikee
join:2012-12-21
Gloucester, ON | I thought that will be for videotron people only. |
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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 Reviews:
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| said by mikee:I thought that will be for videotron people only.
Whatever Videotron does for their own customers, has to be matched for wholesale.
It may be a price increase though. Who knows.
Hense why Rogers is in shit right now. They didn't offer TPIA 45/7, and CRTC is now asking questions:
»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2013/2013-80.htm
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hm
@videotron.ca | reply to mikee
said by mikee:I thought that will be for videotron people only.
Yes, which is where the person I replied to resides. |
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said by Guspaz:Sorry, I'd take 50/10 DSL over 60/3 cable any day of the week. If what was announced in Videotron's forum is real, all TGV tiers are getting bumped to 10Mbps upload in April. |
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said by MaynardKrebs:said by ruiner:What I'd like to see, and what would really help DSL sales, is having the dry loop fees abolished. You don't have to pay a separate fee on coax connections.
Nor do you get a dry-loop fee when you order from Bell. Neither does Telus. So what gives CRTC? |
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kabes
join:2010-05-14
Kitchener, ON Reviews:
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I just looked and apparently 25/10 is available in my postal code now. Last time I looked I couldn't get anything past 10/1 for DSL.
I have 28/1 now but it sounds like this decision doesn't bode well for Rogers TPIA? Will there be price hikes or cap reductions?
Maybe I'll have to go back to DSL...at least it's an option for me now. |
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I am curious how this will play out for dsl services out west in the richmond vancouver area as I am interested in ditching my Telus 25 contract and possible either get 25 unlimited or 50 unlimited with TSI |
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Is that 7Mbps on Rogers actually an "option"? There is no mention of it anywhere on Rogers' plan description so I would be inclined to believe the 7Mbps is simply something Rogers is starting to roll out and will eventually become standard but isn't quite official yet.
The optional upload speed thing is more about Bell's 15/1 vs 15/10 where they charged $4 extra, making 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 and 50/10 which makes no sense and is the reason nobody ever offered it. |
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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 Reviews:
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| said by InvalidError:Is that 7Mbps on Rogers actually an "option"? There is no mention of it anywhere on Rogers' plan description so I would be inclined to believe the 7Mbps is simply something Rogers is starting to roll out and will eventually become standard but isn't quite official yet. The optional upload speed thing is more about Bell's 15/1 vs 15/10 where they charged $4 extra, making 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 and 50/10 which makes no sense and is the reason nobody ever offered it. Yes, 7mbps upload on Rogers is an option, and has been since 2011.
10mbps upload option on Bell is only available in certain areas, but they still filed it.
Rogers couldn't be even bothered to do that, despite offering it to new customers, and giving it to those who asked.
From my last submission:
»Re: Rogers Upstream Bonding
»Re: Rogers Upstream Bonding
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 andybPremium
join:2003-05-29
SW Ontario
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said by morisato:well given bell charges a 1 time rental fee of 100 bucks for them to its own customers, i imagine it will be at least that much to acquire modems from them 
Thats just Bell grabbing money.Nothing to with actual cost.They charge 150 if you dont return the old speedstream modems that are worth about 20 |
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GuspazGuspazPremium,MVM
join:2001-11-05
Montreal, QC
kudos:20 | reply to InvalidError
said by InvalidError:If what was announced in Videotron's forum is real, all TGV tiers are getting bumped to 10Mbps upload in April. That's surprising, since Videotron doesn't support upstream bonding, although perhaps that's changing in April. It's too bad, I'd consider taking 60/10 cable over 50/10 DSL, but with the CBB rates the CRTC just set, cable will never be competitive with DSL.
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said by resa1983:10mbps upload option on Bell is only available in certain areas, but they still filed it. The "option" requires VDSL2 and Bell was required to file tariffs for VDSL2 access so the 10Mbps option (7Mbps at the time) is available wherever VDSL2 is.
However, the "option" makes 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 wholesale so what few ISPs ever offered it quickly scrapped it since it made no sense.
said by resa1983:Rogers couldn't be even bothered to do that, despite offering it to new customers, and giving it to those who asked. The threads you linked very much say the 7Mbps was a progressive roll-out, not an option. |
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said by Guspaz:That's surprising, since Videotron doesn't support upstream bonding, although perhaps that's changing in April. It's too bad, I'd consider taking 60/10 cable over 50/10 DSL, but with the CBB rates the CRTC just set, cable will never be competitive with DSL. Quite puzzling that they haven't enabled bonding yet. They certainly have all the equipment so support should be little more than a few administrative commands away to enable it on their CMTS.
As for CBB rates, cable certainly lost a lot of its potential appeal there. Only time will tell how that shakes out. |
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resa1983Premium
join:2008-03-10
North York, ON
kudos:7 Reviews:
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said by InvalidError:said by resa1983:10mbps upload option on Bell is only available in certain areas, but they still filed it. The "option" requires VDSL2 and Bell was required to file tariffs for VDSL2 access so the 10Mbps option (7Mbps at the time) is available wherever VDSL2 is. However, the "option" makes 15/10 more expensive than 25/10 wholesale so what few ISPs ever offered it quickly scrapped it since it made no sense. said by resa1983:Rogers couldn't be even bothered to do that, despite offering it to new customers, and giving it to those who asked. The threads you linked very much say the 7Mbps was a progressive roll-out, not an option. 150/10 is also a progressive roll-out on Rogers I do believe, but they still filed tariffs for it.
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said by andyb:Thats just Bell grabbing money.Nothing to with actual cost. What is the cheapest legit retail non-used VDSL2 modem you can find? They are rather hard to find and those I have found are in the $150-200 range. |
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hm
@videotron.ca | reply to InvalidError
said by InvalidError:If what was announced in Videotron's forum is real,
Yes, they made a press release.
Among other things, an itsy bitsy teenie tiny increase in usage (or the unlimited option), upload increased to 10-meg, business internet no longer with caps, unlimited (again).
See this bottom of this:
»www.montrealgazette.com/business···ory.html |
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>I have 28/1 now but it sounds like this decision doesn't bode well for Rogers TPIA?
There is always the option of dropping down 1 tier when your area moves to aggregated service and receive the new speed upgrade as a result.
28Mbps/1Mbps upgrades to 35Mbps/3Mbps
18Mbps/0.5Mbps upgrades to 25Mbps/2Mbps.
Very likely TSI will be raising their fees increase with the speed upgrade. So a drop down to 25/2 when it becomes available might be reasonable way of reducing the impact. |
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said by InvalidError:said by andyb:Thats just Bell grabbing money.Nothing to with actual cost. What is the cheapest legit retail non-used VDSL2 modem you can find? They are rather hard to find and those I have found are in the $150-200 range. Zyxel VSG1432 for $126. Bridgeable but I'm sure they charge $20 - $30 extra for the $0.50 in parts and enabling iptables.
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