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Re: Millenicom 3G/4G Hotspot Plan questions before I pass go... Yes, I know Millenicom is just a reseller of Verizon, Sprint, or AT&T services. The difference is a Verizon, Sprint, or AT&T associate would sell me any piece of equipment I wanted. If I lived in a no signal area, I could still buy the equipment. It was up to me to either use it only when I was in a good signal area, make it work with added equipment, or return it within the allowed trial period. Millenicom would not sell equipment if the address for the prospective account holder showed no signal or an extended area. I have had to help people play address games with Millenicom to get approved for service. I always borrow the same modem equipment that Millenicom uses to test service quality, adding in antennas and amplifiers as needed. If I get it to work, then I have help find a way to get Millenicom to sell the modem equipment and agree to have the prospect as a subscriber. If an appeal letter does not do it, then we borrow a friend's address who happens to live in a definitely good signal area as indicated on a coverage map. We submit that address and get approved. Since Millenicom only cares about a steady reliable automatic credit card payment after that, we get the service, they get the money. They do not really care about the fact that the credit card holder's address does not match the service address. |
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student
join:2012-12-24
Los Angeles, CA | David ~ to make it easier on everyone, including yourself, just type in "we waive the right to a refund in the event our location has an unsatisfactory signal" in the comments section of the sign-up page and they'll fulfill the sign-up regardless of the domestic address. |
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Thanks for all the replies and input. We decided to go with the Millenicom 3G/4G Hotspot Plan and ordered it up last Thursday. I was shocked when the mailman delivered it early Saturday afternoon as we are on the Eastern Shore of Maryland, quite a few miles away from Portland. Setup was a breeze and we were very quickly speeding along, up to 20 mbps down and averaging around 12 mbps. The RSRP has been holding around -101 dbm. Added the CradlePoint MBR95 last night for the extended range, additional connections and Data Usage monitor. I must admit though, I was quite impressed with the MiFi 4620LE router and WiFi performance when we were using it standalone.  |
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 Jim_in_VA
join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
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dgreen,
Does the CradlePoint MBR95 hook up directly to the HotSpot device with a cable or is it done wireless?
Here's my dilemma. Currently have the Verizon JetPack that works flawlessly on 4G. I like to play XBox online but with this setup the NAT is always set to Strict, which prevents communicating with other gamers unless their NAT is Open.
I'm wondering if by using the MBR to hook up directly to the XBox will provide an Open NAT. The Verizon JP does not have any external connections to wire to a router, which is the main problem.
Or, does anyone know if I could just buy a MBR95 and use it with the JP to get an Open NAT? |
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Jim_in_VA
join:2004-07-11
Cobbs Creek, VA
kudos:4 | connection is wireless between a MBR95 and a hotspot ... no cables.
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Flash your WRT54G with DD-WRT firmware, then setup a repeater bridge on it with your Hotspot. Repeater bridge works great.
But be careful flashing. |
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That is ONLY if you show NO coverage for anything in your area. If you have 3G coverage but don't show 4G you can still order the MIFI Hotspot without issue, you just aren't guaranteed anything past the normal 3G download speeds.
Given the fact that VZW intends to implement the 4G nationwide thus doing away with 3G when complete, it wouldn't make sense for them not to sell you a 4G capable device right?
If you show NO coverage, but attest that you have tested the same service either directly or by borrowing a friend's Millenicom device and waive your right to a refund, plus agree your support will be limited then it's on, you may be shipped a device anyway, it just depends on what Management decides. |
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Max SignalPremium
join:2008-03-07
Buffalo, NY
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1 edit | said by murfeez_law:That is ONLY if you show NO coverage for anything in your area. If you have 3G coverage but don't show 4G you can still order the MIFI Hotspot without issue, you just aren't guaranteed anything past the normal 3G download speeds.
Given the fact that VZW intends to implement the 4G nationwide thus doing away with 3G when complete, it wouldn't make sense for them not to sell you a 4G capable device right?
If you show NO coverage, but attest that you have tested the same service either directly or by borrowing a friend's Millenicom device and waive your right to a refund, plus agree your support will be limited then it's on, you may be shipped a device anyway, it just depends on what Management decides.
Who told you they are getting rid of 3G ? Sorry but you have been misinformed . 3G will be in place for many years to come . Too many industrial applications being used . And it would be much to costly to replace all at this point. |
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3G's not going away anytime soon. Even though Verizon will have their whole network covered in 4G by later in the year, they still will be keeping 1XRTT and EVDO around until 2021. By that time, we'd likely be getting into the next generation of wireless standards with 5G speed. |
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| Of course that was their initial stated plan when it was a newborn on the news feeds, neither is it going to disappear with a wiggle of the nose and it's not a practical move.
They had also stated at the beginning the goal was to be nationwide 4G by the end of 2012 so there ya go.
However, I agree with one statement in a forum post, it's not my belief they will concentrate on maintaining as much as upgrading.
And there are reports, I'm not sure how correct the users were that some areas only have 4G now. I've heard that from only a couple of people so I'm not sure if it's entirely correct.
Anyone else hear of this? |
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Max SignalPremium
join:2008-03-07
Buffalo, NY
kudos:1 | said by murfeez_law:Of course that was their initial stated plan when it was a newborn on the news feeds, neither is it going to disappear with a wiggle of the nose and it's not a practical move.
They had also stated at the beginning the goal was to be nationwide 4G by the end of 2012 so there ya go.
However, I agree with one statement in a forum post, it's not my belief they will concentrate on maintaining as much as upgrading.
And there are reports, I'm not sure how correct the users were that some areas only have 4G now. I've heard that from only a couple of people so I'm not sure if it's entirely correct.
Anyone else hear of this?
Where did you get 4G by end of 2012 ? That was never the stated goal . It was by end of 2013 and they are actually ahead of schedule . |
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Actually, if it's a 4G -108dbm then that's good. It is equivalent to the 3G -88dbm give or take a db or so.
The LTE signal works differently, as an example my LTE signal was -98db and I got 33.53 dl speeds. |
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From a Verizon Tech (former engineer) that kept current on the department's implementations and such though he was no longer in the department.
As I said it was a briefly visited goal and nothing was or is written in stone. |
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Max SignalPremium
join:2008-03-07
Buffalo, NY
kudos:1 | said by murfeez_law:From a Verizon Tech (former engineer) that kept current on the department's implementations and such though he was no longer in the department.
As I said it was a briefly visited goal and nothing was or is written in stone.
He was pulling your leg then , I have had direct communications for years with Many highly placed folks at Verizon and that has never been stated in our conversations. |
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Max SignalPremium
join:2008-03-07
Buffalo, NY
kudos:1 | reply to murfeez_law
said by murfeez_law:Actually, if it's a 4G -108dbm then that's good. It is equivalent to the 3G -88dbm give or take a db or so.
The LTE signal works differently, as an example my LTE signal was -98db and I got 33.53 dl speeds.
who told you -108 on 4G or -88 on 3G are acceptable signals ? . They are not . Are you just making all your postings up as you go along to look Knowledgeable ?
3G ideal signal are as follows
-65 - -75 is ideal
-76 - -85 is usable
-86 - -95 some sort of reception assistance should be used even if it is just an antenna.
-108 on 4G is not an acceptable signal
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| And what has you thinking an RSSI at -88 for 3G speeds is horrible? That kind of signal strength has been usable for me for wireless connections and I'd only be concerned if the signal strength bounced anywhere around -95 or worst. -76 to -85 would be an excellent signal, but anywhere between -86 to -92 is still solid enough where you can get a decent Internet connection with it. |
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Max SignalPremium
join:2008-03-07
Buffalo, NY
kudos:1 | said by ggultra2764:And what has you thinking an RSSI at -88 for 3G speeds is horrible? That kind of signal strength has been usable for me for wireless connections and I'd only be concerned if the signal strength bounced anywhere around -95 or worst. -76 to -85 would be an excellent signal, but anywhere between -86 to -92 is still solid enough where you can get a decent Internet connection with it.
Actually not, below -85 you could be subject to packet loss and drop out . Glad it is working for you . But that is not the norm. |
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said by Max Signal:said by murfeez_law:Actually, if it's a 4G -108dbm then that's good. It is equivalent to the 3G -88dbm give or take a db or so.
The LTE signal works differently, as an example my LTE signal was -98db and I got 33.53 dl speeds.
who told you -108 on 4G or -88 on 3G are acceptable signals ? . They are not . Are you just making all your postings up as you go along to look Knowledgeable ? 3G ideal signal are as follows -65 - -75 is ideal -76 - -85 is usable -86 - -95 some sort of reception assistance should be used even if it is just an antenna. -108 on 4G is not an acceptable signal From the Verizon Support site
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Better than -96dBm is a great signal
Between -97dBm and -107dBm is good
Between -108dBm and -114dBm is fair
Worse than -115dBm is poor |
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and who told you they weren't? We aren't trying to sell antennas here, we are just giving our experiences.
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This was achieved with a -102dbm on 4G and I never get below -96dbm with the tower .25 mile straight shot as the crow flies from me.
So, thanks ggultra for adding to the fact that experience DOES count for something.
Also, before promoting all the antenna sales maybe you should do one better and have them visit the "Will an antenna help me?" on the 3gstore.com site before they send money unnecessarily. That would be a little more thoughtful. |
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