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El Quintron
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GPU upgrade now, or wait for 700 series?

I'm just throwing this out there, but I'm tossing around a GPU upgrade of some sort and I'm wondering how this would work out on a Z77 board...

If I get a second GTX670, I'd be doing x8/x8, vs. the 780 at x16... I'm not planning on going X79 or Haswell anytime soon, but I'm open to suggestions.

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dual 670s is fine on x8/x8.



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said by Krisnatharok:

dual 670s is fine on x8/x8.

What do you think the performance would be versus a single GTX 780 or an AMD counterpart, whilst keeping the Z77 system?

I find the numbering on the AMD cards to be a little confusing but if I passed down the GTX670 to my wife, would you recommend a crossfire setup instead, I'm not crazy about the noise and increased power drain, but I'd like to maximize this system.
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A 780 is going to be $800-1000. You can probably get 80% of the performance from buying a second 670.

Or sell your 670, and buy a 7990.
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said by Krisnatharok:

A 780 is going to be $800-1000. You can probably get 80% of the performance from buying a second 670

Fair enough, OTH how long do you think it would take for the 780 to drop around to about ~$600? I was looking up the 7990 and the only one I can find is a Powercolor one for $899.

How would you compare a couple of CF'd 7970s to a GTX780, or even a GTX680?

I'm about to take an administrative leave, so I'll have a bit more time to game and possibly max out my setup, but not really enough time or cash to get an entirely new setup.
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I've heard the 780 is about 80-90% of a 690/7990. CF 7970s is the most powerful thing out there except for a 780.

Check out this discussion for a 7970 vs. 680: »Reddit's BaPC Gaming PC Build Guide
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said by Krisnatharok:

I've heard the 780 is about 80-90% of a 690/7990. CF 7970s is the most powerful thing out there except for a 780.

Check out this discussion for a 7970 vs. 680: »Reddit's BaPC Gaming PC Build Guide

I keep coming back to that Reddit thread, but in a nutshell if I wanted to upgrade right now, a pair of CF'd 7970s would do me for a couple of years?

Another question if I can pick at your brain in strict mathematical terms, what would be the difference between CF'd 7970s at x8/x8 vs CF'd 7970s at x16/x16?
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What's your setup?



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At 1080p, the only gain of x16/x16 is about 5-9%. At 1440p, it's about 25-26%. At Eyefinity/3x 1080p, it's about 50%.

You would have to factor the CPU into that as well. I bet an overclocked 3770K is better than a stock 3820.
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said by El Quintron:

I keep coming back to that Reddit thread

I was actually referring to the discussion demir and I were having about 680s and 7970s in the DSLR thread, sorry for being vague.

If it were up to me, and I already had one 670, I wouldn't pick up two 7970s--I'd pick up a second 670. SLI for $350 isn't bad.
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If you can wait and be content with what you have until around June or July, I would just sit tight and wait for the 700 series (NOT 780). You already have a 670 and that's a really nice, new card. I find the need for a 700 series GPU purchase really odd seeing as how a 670 is fantastic for majority of the games available and it isn't even a year old yet.

Despite all of this, if you still want to upgrade then consider what I said about just waiting for the 700 series... if you can.

At this point in time, these are your best options:
1) Wait a few more months
2) Buy another 670 and run an SLI setup with 2x670's

I wouldn't buy an AMD card seeing as how you already have a 670. If you're looking for more performance, you would be better off buying an additional 670 for SLI and gaining performance that way. Rather than ditching the 670 and buying an entirely different brand (AMD) when you already have your foot in the door with Nvidia and a phenomenal card to boot.

As for 700 series cards, any information about them is purely speculation at this point. Nvidia hasn't made any announcements whatsoever on what we can look forward to in regards to the 700 series. The 780 you guys are talking about is said to be a limited edition run with low quantities. So as a rule of thumb when you hear this: limited edition, limited quantities, expect it to be expensive. Speculation is putting it at over $800 with about 80% of the performance of a 690.

If you have a 670 already, me personally, wouldn't consider the 780 the card for me.

If past history of GPU prices and trends are any indication, a 780 costing ~$800-$850 at release will take about 3-5 months for any price movement, (considering competition will be nill from AMD in 2013) probably even longer.



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said by Moos:

What's your setup?

Forgot that was important

I have:
27" 1440p monitor (HP ZR2740W capped at 60Hz)
Asus P8Z77-V
i7 3770 (non-k)
16 GB Ram (ripjawz, don't have the exact spec on hand)
A current stock GTX670 (EVGA)
Intel 520 240GB SSD as a boot drive

It's pretty sweet, and I haven't had any issues running anything at ultra so far.
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said by Krisnatharok:

If it were up to me, and I already had one 670, I wouldn't pick up two 7970s--I'd pick up a second 670. SLI for $350 isn't bad.

I'm leaning that way too after most responses in the this thread.
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said by TruSm0ke:

I wouldn't buy an AMD card seeing as how you already have a 670. If you're looking for more performance, you would be better off buying an additional 670 for SLI and gaining performance that way. Rather than ditching the 670 and buying an entirely different brand (AMD) when you already have your foot in the door with Nvidia and a phenomenal card to boot.

I'm not denying the 670 is a truly great card, but I am exploring all setups, at this point though a pretty good case has been made on my current setup for another 670.
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