guppy_fishPremium
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Lakeland, FL
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Re: Easements question All easements will have right to access them, otherwise the easements is pointless
Seriously, this discussion about easements is pointless, any property that has public utilities has an easement, only noobs get all worked up about them for no reason.
The OP need to keep looking and before searching would save time by making a must have and wish list and work from that.
This thread reminds me of the HGTV show property virgins  Unlike the TV show, you don't have to pick any of the properties listed in the next 30 minutes, keep looking, most stuff on the market is junk or over priced and has many flaws, but you will learn and when the right one is found, there will be no indecision about purchasing it. |
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harald
join:2010-10-22
Columbus, OH
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Where are these houses located (City, state, not detailed)? |
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DodgePremium
join:2002-11-27 | reply to guppy_fish
said by guppy_fish:All easements will have right to access them, otherwise the easements is pointless
Seriously, this discussion about easements is pointless, any property that has public utilities has an easement, only noobs get all worked up about them for no reason.
because you were born knowing everything and didn't have to ask a single question. Somewhere down the line I mistakenly assumed that this is a forum and a good source of information. Pardon me for trying to understand how things work.
said by guppy_fish:The OP need to keep looking and before searching would save time by making a must have and wish list and work from that.
I have a must have list and a wish list, there is also such a thing as inventory shortage, just because half of Florida is vacant doesn't mean other states are overfilled with properties to buy. The area I'm looking at has a fairly low turn over rate and properties don't just come on the market every day.
said by guppy_fish:This thread reminds me of the HGTV show property virgins Unlike the TV show, you don't have to pick any of the properties listed in the next 30 minutes, keep looking, most stuff on the market is junk or over priced and has many flaws, but you will learn and when the right one is found, there will be no indecision about purchasing it.
Yeah that always works out like that. I found one that was almost exactly what I wanted, it was 40 grand over my spend limit, had multiple offers on the day it went on the market as in it was pretty much sold in the time it took me to drive down there to look at it, etc... |
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DodgePremium
join:2002-11-27 | reply to harald
said by harald:Where are these houses located (City, state, not detailed)?
They are in surrounding townships of Englishtown, NJ |
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guppy_fishPremium
join:2003-12-09
Lakeland, FL
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Sorry, yes this is a great place to learn ... so, from someone that's owned over 30 property's I would say don't worry about the easements,
Didn't know or read real-estate was back to multiple full price offers in the NorthEast, then again may depend on the budget or price range.
Florida isn't half empty, the glut is gone and while prices haven't moved up much, the foreclosures and price declines have stopped, for now ...
I hope you find the home your looking for and good luck! |
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 mityfowlPremium
join:2000-11-06
Dallas, TX | reply to Dodge
said by Dodge:said by Bob:Guy here at work redid his kitchen. Cost was $30k-$40k. And it took weeks and weeks and weeks.
In all fairness the kitchen in house #2 is updated not upgraded. The apliances are brand new SS. Cabinets are low end wood stuff and counters are double corian. So basically livable for a few years. Also just found another gem of information, both houses have carpets (hate carpets, plus have allergies), however house one is carpet on plywood, house 2 is carpet on hardwood. So i'm guessing, refinishing hardwood that's already there should be less costly than putting new one on. You wish it was cheaper.
It might be but not buy much.
New install is so much easier for the guys. |
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
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said by guppy_fish:All easements will have right to access them, otherwise the easements is pointless An easement is a right to access, it doesn't create imaginary ones. In the case of a 20 foot drainage easement at the back of the lot they would move heavy equipment along the easement, not through the side gate from the front of the house. If that were the case then there would be an easement from street to back of lot to access the drainage easement. |
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mityfowlPremium
join:2000-11-06
Dallas, TX | said by robbin:said by guppy_fish:All easements will have right to access them, otherwise the easements is pointless An easement is a right to access, it doesn't create imaginary ones. In the case of a 20 foot drainage easement at the back of the lot they would move heavy equipment along the easement, not through the side gate from the front of the house. If that were the case then there would be an easement from street to back of lot to access the drainage easement. This isn't about me but I think there is an easement 14' front to back here down the fence line. |
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AsherN
join:2010-08-23
Thornhill, ON | reply to Dodge
Every utility that has ever chewed up my front yard to get to whatever they needed to has always fixed it. Easement does not mean they just come in , dig fix and leave. It means they don't need your permission to do so. I had the local electric company dig a couple of big holes last year. They filled them back in and re-sodded. Few months after, one of the holes started to sink. We called and they came back and fixed it again. |
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DodgePremium
join:2002-11-27 | reply to robbin
said by robbin:said by guppy_fish:All easements will have right to access them, otherwise the easements is pointless An easement is a right to access, it doesn't create imaginary ones. In the case of a 20 foot drainage easement at the back of the lot they would move heavy equipment along the easement, not through the side gate from the front of the house. If that were the case then there would be an easement from street to back of lot to access the drainage easement. I think you are right, looking at the map, the easement does go across multiple properties until it reaches the street, so they really won't have to go through yards. This makes a lot more sense:) |
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DodgePremium
join:2002-11-27 | reply to guppy_fish
said by guppy_fish:Sorry, yes this is a great place to learn ... so, from someone that's owned over 30 property's I would say don't worry about the easements,
That's what I've gathered from this thread.
said by guppy_fish:Didn't know or read real-estate was back to multiple full price offers in the NorthEast, then again may depend on the budget or price range.
Never really went away. Anything within reasonable commute distance to NYC just held the price. Places where prices theoretically fell, people just stopped selling unless they had to move. |
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BobAccount deleted
join:2012-07-22
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| You're overthinking this. It's not really a big deal. Look up the deed on the County Clerk's web site and see what (if anything) it says about who owns the easement.
Having said that, there are a bunch of people in Hunterdon County who are upset because the company that has the easement for two high-pressure gas pipelines under their property has decided to expand the easement to install a third pipeline and that pipeline will be right next to the peoples' houses. Like 5 feet away.
And Guppy, property values in New Jersey never really fell. Houses in my neighborhood are selling for higher than they were in 2006. |
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 DraimanLet me see those devil horns in the sky
join:2012-06-01
Kill Devil Hills, NC
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The home owner almost always 'owns' the easement but the city has rights to use it if needed. The city would lose out on tax revenue if they owned it since they couldn't collect taxes on it. On the other hand the city often times maintains the easement so they can get access to it. If a tree fall into the easement area for example you'd call the city and they'd come remove it for you free.
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 nunyaWho is John Galt?Premium,MVM
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O Fallon, MO
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I'll try to explain easements in layman's terms. It varies amongst municipalities.
For the most part, you get the "privilege" of paying taxes on, and maintaining, the easement land.
If you choose to landscape or "improve" the easement in any way, you could potentially be left "holding the bag" when the utility comes in to work. Most will try to "restore" the property in order to avoid general bitching and frivolous lawsuits. One of my old bosses at AT&T put it eloquently - "Lawyers cost a lot more than laborers".
Chances are that if you live on a property in a subdivision or municipality, and it is served by utilities, then there are easements. Often, many easements are not marked on a platten, but are recorded in writing.
Another thing people do not seem to "get" is that utilities have a reasonable right to access the easement (through private property).
The rules for accessing the easement vs. working in the easement are different.
As far as houses go, one thing you need to consider is that general building techniques changed a lot in the 17 years between 1968 and 1985. Some for the better, some for the worse.
In general, I'd say the house from '68 would probably be a little more "solid". One huge "gotcha" you need to look for in house built in the 60's-70's is aluminum wiring.
My professional opinion and advice to people in regards to homes with aluminum wiring is: keep looking. Let somebody else deal with the headache.
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Think about properties in CT not NJ. NJ is terrible to live in.
I would go with #2 without easements. easements are ok until they get used (which WILL happen) and then you can end up with bulldozers and large trucks ripping through your property. sure they can be nice about it but they dont HAVE to be (and in NJ in an emergency i doubt they would care to even bother asking you -- just drive that caterpillar through the easement followed by two dump trucks and do the job). |
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sk1939Premium
join:2010-10-23
Washington, DC
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said by Draiman:said by Dodge:said by Draiman:...
You have easement in both properties as well. It's just one easement vs 2 easements.
The property with the pool is not showing any easements on the tax map, why do you think there is 1 vs 2 easements? They are on a public street right? That grants the city easement on the front. It's implied so you won't see it on any tax map but call the city and ask them. They'll confirm how much of an easement they get off all public roads. The house I grew up in was strange in that sense, it had literally no easements. The telephone poles both skipped my house and the one next to me. When the county went to put in sidewalks (unincorporated) they again stopped at the house before mine. There were a few built around the same time, and one built in 1910 a street over or two that have the same thing. |
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DodgePremium
join:2002-11-27 | reply to fluffybunny
said by fluffybunny :Think about properties in CT not NJ. NJ is terrible to live in.
I would go with #2 without easements. easements are ok until they get used (which WILL happen) and then you can end up with bulldozers and large trucks ripping through your property. sure they can be nice about it but they dont HAVE to be (and in NJ in an emergency i doubt they would care to even bother asking you -- just drive that caterpillar through the easement followed by two dump trucks and do the job).
And what makes CT better than NJ? |
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