 JH28 @bankofamerica.com | Re: What do we want from Verizon in 2013? 1. dvr with more than 2 tuners 2. some hd channels that most other good systems have that we are missing. top of my list would be H2 and CBS Sports Network. |
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Re: What do we want from Verizon in 2013? 1----Beat TIVO to the punch and introduce the Media Server and the associated IPC1100, before TIVO comes out with their MINI box.
2----A less agonizing roll-out process for any new product or service. |
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 | reply to Webcobbler How do you like just ethernet instead of using Coax? I like the fact you can use your own router. |
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 | said by brianiscool:How do you like just ethernet instead of using Coax? I like the fact you can use your own router. Do you mean wireless vs. coax? It would be pointless to connect your STB's to the media server via Ethernet, since homes are already run with coax. |
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 | said by Greg2600:said by brianiscool:How do you like just ethernet instead of using Coax? I like the fact you can use your own router. Do you mean wireless vs. coax? It would be pointless to connect your STB's to the media server via Ethernet, since homes are already run with coax. Ethernet STBs with 3rd party Router FTW ! |
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 | reply to Greg2600 You can get rid of the coax if you don't have cable. Then have them run ethernet right to the box inside your house. |
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 | reply to Greg2600 said by Greg2600:said by brianiscool:How do you like just ethernet instead of using Coax? I like the fact you can use your own router. Do you mean wireless vs. coax? It would be pointless to connect your STB's to the media server via Ethernet, since homes are already run with coax. You do not see the larger picture with Ethernet, I would prefer a STB that only had 2 cables on the back of it, 1 Ethernet (Gigabit + PoE so no stupid power bricks) and 1 HDMI in a box small enough that it can be tucked behind a flat screen on the wall out of sight.
Then look ahead at some of the newer standards that are being proposed and you will see HDMI replaced with HDBaseT and at that point you can have 1 box that can run several TVs from a remote location in the house all over standard Cat5e/Cat6 connections plugged directly into a TV/Monitor. |
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 | reply to navyson I have no problem with having more options, but there's no chance 99% of existing coax homes will be changed over to Ethernet. It's not worth the cost or hassle. Coax must continue to be an option. But it would be a big saver in new construction and apartment buildings. |
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 | reply to navyson What do I want from VZ in 2013? I want them to read, and then respond to, the letter I wrote them 6 months ago asking for a refund/credit for the ~$100 they incorrectly charged me over the course of the previous year.
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 incognito_2u"If you play by the Rules, you lose" join:2005-03-15 Malverne, NY | reply to navyson A Home Media DVR capable of recording at least 4 programs simultaneously while still watching another program, and the "NFL Sunday Ticket"............
Ah, Nirvana!!!!  -- "I'm an Analog guy in a Digital World!" |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | reply to guppy_fish said by guppy_fish:The Data side to support IPTV isn't unlimited, at 10 mbs stream they would dwarf NetFlix usage, which according to recent articles is video is approaching 50% of all network traffic As if TV service works by magic. AT&T doesn't cap the hours you can watch TV.. Does Verizon cut you off from watching TV if you're watching it too much? |
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 guppy_fishPremium join:2003-12-09 Lakeland, FL kudos:1 Reviews:
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| said by brad:As if TV service works by magic. AT&T doesn't cap the hours you can watch TV.. Does Verizon cut you off from watching TV if you're watching it too much? Um, actually, there ARE limits on UVerse, last I read the internet is capped below the slowest quantum FIOS tier, you can only have one or two HD stream per household and the video is horribly over compressed to minimize the bandwidth as its delivered by vdsl2.
Just think if FIOS was all IP, your looking at 4 million households streaming 10mbs per mpeg4 stream, even with optical, the last mile would be a stretch to support that many concurrent users |
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 Strommy join:2010-04-23 King Of Prussia, PA | reply to incognito_2u said by incognito_2u:A Home Media DVR capable of recording at least 4 programs simultaneously while still watching another program, and the "NFL Sunday Ticket"............
Ah, Nirvana!!!!  DirecTV has exclusive rights for Sunday Ticket through the 2014 season so you can cross that one off. -- Verizon is becoming the new Comcast
Those .tv channels have got to go!!!!!!!!!! |
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| reply to navyson I would be happy with the same channels, Internet and phone...
At the same price or close to what I am paying now. In Oct or Nov some of my 1 year credits go away. I hope can get another deal.
I am happy with the service over all. If they come out with that new 6 tuner PVR thing even better. But my guess it will be too expensive per month for my blood.
Currently have a Tivo Premiere and Verizon 7232 (setup for multiroom). 4 tuners is plenty for me. |
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| I can't wrap my brain around this voracious need for a six-tuner media server. The appeal of the six tuners is understandable, don't get me wrong, but having them all on one device, giving you one point of complete failure? Eh, I'm not embracing that idea.
Basically - if I understand this correctly - should the media server STB go out, you can't watch TV anywhere in your home with a slave box that relies on the media server being active. Correct? Where as with multiple DVRs and STBs if one goes out (unless you have only one) you're able to watch on any other DVR or STB.
Unless the media server leads to a dramatic decrease in price, which I doubt, I'll stick with a multiple DVR/STB set up.
Just a couple new HD channels is all I want in 2013. Oh and for my neighborhood to go GPON so I can upgrade beyond 50/35. |
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 brad join:2007-09-06 Etobicoke, ON | reply to guppy_fish said by guppy_fish:Um, actually, there ARE limits on UVerse, last I read the internet is capped below the slowest quantum FIOS tier, you can only have one or two HD stream per household and the video is horribly over compressed to minimize the bandwidth as its delivered by vdsl2. Doesn't change the fact that you're not limited to the number of hours you can watch TV. AT&T does not put a cap on the amount of data provided to the IPTV side of their service and thus does not limit the number of hours you can watch.
FiOS != VDSL2.
said by guppy_fish:Just think if FIOS was all IP, your looking at 4 million households streaming 10mbs per mpeg4 stream, even with optical, the last mile would be a stretch to support that many concurrent users Yes, because regular means of delivering TV works magic but switching to IP and the whole system will collapse. You have no idea what you're talking about. |
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 | reply to guppy_fish said by guppy_fish:Just think if FIOS was all IP, your looking at 4 million households streaming 10mbs per mpeg4 stream, even with optical, the last mile would be a stretch to support that many concurrent users You need to do some research before making stupid statements like that. The technology called Multicast has been around since the 80s and used in other applications (Imaging thousands of PCs for one) before being used in large scale video streaming starting around 2000.
Using your logic no network in the world could handle 4 million 10Mbps streams yet I can name 2 LARGE company's that do it right now, the first is ATT with UVerse and the second is Bell Canada with Fibe TV (Similar to FiOS in that they use FTTH as well as like ATT with a FTTN setup) and both use Multicast to accomplish it. |
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