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Rob_
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Mary Esther, FL
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Whole Home DVR...worth $75.00??

Why was I quoted a $75.00 for their Whole Home DVR? This doesn't make cents. I can install it myself. How hard is it to plug in a box?

Is there a different install for this?

75.00 seems a bit much. and am not getting it for the lack of HD channels they have available on their premium plus plan.

-Rob


ajwees41
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Omaha, NE

no I'd get a tivo from what I heard the whole home dvr's are still buggy and over priced.



Anonguy

@cox.net

It is more than plugging in a box.

Moca needs to be configured. If you have amps they need to be eliminated or designed so the MOCA does not go thru them.

Signal needs to be perfect or they will not load/Boot.

Plus more.



bbeesley
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reply to Rob_

said by Rob_:

Why was I quoted a $75.00 for their Whole Home DVR?

I was a beta tester for whole home a few years ago and even with the well manicured setup I had in my house, the technician still needed to install a MOCA filter and ensure that all the set-tops could communicate. It wasn't trivial so I can understand why Cox requires the professional install. They want to make sure it is done right the first time and ensure you don't have to call in and have another truck rolled out.

That said, if you are really felling adventurous and just want to do it yourself you only need a few components, a bit of time, and the willingness to read up.

First, you need to get a cable-card tuner and a cable-card. I am using one of these »www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun/atsc/

once you install the HDHomerun, then you can stream video to any PC, or iPad.

To make a DVR, get an old PC out and install and configure Windows Media Center to tune to the HDHomerun.... or if you can, install Linux and MythTV or XBMC

I am using XBMC because I can run it on home-made set-top boxes using relatively inexpensive Raspery PI boards.

See
»www.raspberrypi.org/
»xbmc.org/
»wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi

and then you can save $75 plus the rental fees....though you will loose on-demand and the ability to call Cox or complain here about the cable company when you have to figure out why something isn't working as expected <grin>

Rakeesh

join:2011-10-30
Mesa, AZ
reply to Rob_

Sickbeard combined with Couchpotato. Much better than anything cable TV can offer, and it's free.


Rob_
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Mary Esther, FL
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I heard a TIVO you can get a remote (UHF) control and plug it in to the bedroom's set and allow guests to watch whatever via a cable card and I can ditch this crappy 8240 box. In HD. TIVO won't tune in analog tv however, Cox does the digital simulcasting so that shouldn't be the problem.

I heard by the end of 2013, analog cable will cease to exist on Cox's network, pulling a Comcast.

-Rob


ajwees41
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Omaha, NE

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depends on witch tivo you get the S3 and Premiers can do analog cable. The only Tivo that doesn't get analog is the 4 tuner latest model.



BryanInPHX
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2-Tuner TiVo Premieres are Analog capable and Digital QAM and ATSC OTA
TiVo TCD746320 Premiere, 320GB, 45HR HD (discontinued)
TiVo TCD748000 Premiere XL, 1TB, 150HR HD (discontinued)
TiVo TCD746500 Premiere, 500GB, 75HR HD (current model)

4-Tuner TiVo Premieres are Digital QAM only
TiVo TCD750500 Premiere 4, 500GB, 75HR HD (current model)
TiVo TCD758250 Premiere XL4/Elite, 2TB, 317HR HD (current model)

The TiVo Mini IP-STB Extender should be out to retail soon, Suddenlink cable just launched the Mini.
»suddenlinkfyi.com/2013/02/19/man···vo-mini/
»www.zatznotfunny.com/2013-02/sud···vo-mini/

next (5th) generation TiVo hardware may be out later this year, TiVo is also considering a 4-Tuner ATSC OTA model. May also see a 6-Tuner Digital QAM only model.
»www.zatznotfunny.com/2013-02/tiv···tal-dvr/
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BryanInPHX
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reply to Rob_

Cox 6-Tuner Cisco Videoscape Multiscreen Gateway 9800

Here is the system Cox plans to launch later this year.

Cisco Videoscape Multiscreen Gateway 9800
»www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps1···dex.html

Cox to deploy Cisco video gateways and Videoscape Unity platform
»www.fiercecable.com/story/cox-de···13-01-08

CES Report: Cisco Announces Videoscape Unity, Cox Signs On
»www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/···035.aspx

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5J6XtL70hs

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DIY-Ext. eSATA DVR Expander No Enclosure Bare HDD - WD Caviar Black WD1002FA

Rob_
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Mary Esther, FL
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Will this be a requirement for all?

-Rob


Hoss
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join:2000-10-05
Tulsa, OK
reply to BryanInPHX

said by BryanInPHX:

Here is the system Cox plans to launch later this year.

Cisco Videoscape Multiscreen Gateway 9800
»www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps1···dex.html

Cox to deploy Cisco video gateways and Videoscape Unity platform
»www.fiercecable.com/story/cox-de···13-01-08

CES Report: Cisco Announces Videoscape Unity, Cox Signs On

(youtube clip)

Cust reps in Tulsa have told me these are already being beta tested by some employees in certain markets. Didn't know which markets.

Rob_
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I have been considering the TIVO but your on your own. Living with someone who watches TV is why I'm still a cable customer. Cause I can live without it.

That box looks kinda cool and knew they were going to be going IPTV.

-Rob



Optimus2357
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West Warwick, RI
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reply to BryanInPHX

Looks exciting. Thanks for posting!

With that said though, I am keeping my DCX3200. Im not a fan of most Cisco equipment. I just have my doubts of their build quality on the consumer end. Fingers crossed though.



dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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Phoenix, AZ
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reply to Rob_

Re: Whole Home DVR...worth $75.00??

said by Rob_:

Why was I quoted a $75.00 for their Whole Home DVR? This doesn't make cents. I can install it myself. How hard is it to plug in a box?

Is there a different install for this?

75.00 seems a bit much. and am not getting it for the lack of HD channels they have available on their premium plus plan.

whole home dvr is a double dip. they put many channels you already pay for above 860mhz so you have to pay twice to get the hd versions of channels you already pay for.

nobody really does free hd.
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dvd536
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reply to Rob_

said by Rob_:

I heard a TIVO you can get a remote (UHF) control and plug it in to the bedroom's set and allow guests to watch whatever via a cable card and I can ditch this crappy 8240 box. In HD. TIVO won't tune in analog tv however, Cox does the digital simulcasting so that shouldn't be the problem.

forget TIVO crapola. out the door its more expensive. you still have the cablecard and digital gateway[now known as advanced tv, basically its money for nothing]

my cox dvr doesn't record infomercials unlike that tivo garbage.
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djdanska
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said by dvd536:

said by Rob_:

I heard a TIVO you can get a remote (UHF) control and plug it in to the bedroom's set and allow guests to watch whatever via a cable card and I can ditch this crappy 8240 box. In HD. TIVO won't tune in analog tv however, Cox does the digital simulcasting so that shouldn't be the problem.

forget TIVO crapola. out the door its more expensive. you still have the cablecard and digital gateway[now known as advanced tv, basically its money for nothing]

my cox dvr doesn't record infomercials unlike that tivo garbage.

Cox gave me both the cablecard and tuning adapter (and NO digital gateway) for just $2 per month and it has yet to record infomercials. Not sure where that came from. I don't have any advanced tv box or anything.
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reply to dvd536

my TiVo was 10x better than the whole home garbage that Cox installed. i have the "newer" system, but it still sucks compared to the TiVo setup i was using previously.

I will be taking these junk boxes back and happily going back to TiVo within the next week.

The only advantage i can see with the cox setup is MoCa is built in, unlike my old TiVo Premiere 320GB (i changed the HD out for a 1TB about a year ago, and it's been flawless ever since)


Rob_
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Mary Esther, FL
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Is there anything I can get for my downstairs TV that can plug in to the HDMI port and accept a cable card? Not a computer but, say a box? It can get the TV Guide info from WIFI? Surly there IS something like that out there.

-Rob



bbeesley
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said by Rob_:

Is there anything I can get for my downstairs TV that can plug in to the HDMI port and accept a cable card? Not a computer but, say a box? It can get the TV Guide info from WIFI? Surly there IS something like that out there.

see my earlier post. Not quite a single box, but you can do it with an HD Homerun and a Raspberry Pi


Optimus2357
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You might also look at

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···-102-002



BryanInPHX
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Phoenix, AZ
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Unless there are very new drivers that I am not aware of, Intel HD 2000/3000/4000 Graphics (GPUs) cannot display Cox's Copy Protected H.264 Plus Pak channels using Windows Media Center.
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DIY-Ext. eSATA DVR Expander No Enclosure Bare HDD - WD Caviar Black WD1002FA


Optimus2357
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West Warwick, RI
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I think new drivers were released in December to correct just that issue, but please correct me if I am wrong.

»downloadmirror.intel.com/22401/e···otes.pdf


Rakeesh

join:2011-10-30
Mesa, AZ
Reviews:
·Sprint Mobile Br..
·Cox HSI
reply to dvd536

said by dvd536:

said by Rob_:

Why was I quoted a $75.00 for their Whole Home DVR? This doesn't make cents. I can install it myself. How hard is it to plug in a box?

Is there a different install for this?

75.00 seems a bit much. and am not getting it for the lack of HD channels they have available on their premium plus plan.

whole home dvr is a double dip. they put many channels you already pay for above 860mhz so you have to pay twice to get the hd versions of channels you already pay for.

nobody really does free hd.

Sick beard does HD, and it's free.


Optimus2357
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And how exactly are you getting that "free" content to put into Sick beard? Anything is free if you steal it.


Rakeesh

join:2011-10-30
Mesa, AZ
Reviews:
·Sprint Mobile Br..
·Cox HSI
reply to djdanska

said by djdanska:

said by dvd536:

said by Rob_:

I heard a TIVO you can get a remote (UHF) control and plug it in to the bedroom's set and allow guests to watch whatever via a cable card and I can ditch this crappy 8240 box. In HD. TIVO won't tune in analog tv however, Cox does the digital simulcasting so that shouldn't be the problem.

forget TIVO crapola. out the door its more expensive. you still have the cablecard and digital gateway[now known as advanced tv, basically its money for nothing]

my cox dvr doesn't record infomercials unlike that tivo garbage.

Cox gave me both the cablecard and tuning adapter (and NO digital gateway) for just $2 per month and it has yet to record infomercials. Not sure where that came from. I don't have any advanced tv box or anything.

I just pay $35 a month (that includes the cable cards) and get the only channels I need (all in HD too) on my TiVo. I'm phasing those out though. Sick beard doesn't record any commercials at all, so no need for fast forward or skip buttons.

Rakeesh

join:2011-10-30
Mesa, AZ
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reply to Optimus2357

said by Optimus2357:

And how exactly are you getting that "free" content to put into Sick beard? Anything is free if you steal it.

Well, I've been paying for channels that I don't even watch for years. I've even been paying out the nose for ESPN for years even though I don't even watch it.

The way I see it, I'm just getting my money's worth. The content industry is way overdue for a good kick in the ass, so I'm giving them one.

Thanks to the laws they push for, I can't legally watch the content I already paid for on my own DVR. Also thanks to them, I can't unlock my own cell phone that I own and paid for. Screw them, and screw cox for their CCI flag, I hope they all diaf.


Optimus2357
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I think this has gotten off topic and beyond scope. Just saying its not usually wise to post such things on a public, moderated, forum.



BryanInPHX
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Phoenix, AZ
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reply to Optimus2357

said by Optimus2357:

I think new drivers were released in December to correct just that issue, but please correct me if I am wrong.

»downloadmirror.intel.com/22401/e···otes.pdf

I am running those drivers and they did not fix the issue for me. Anyone else?

Product Detected - Intel Processor Graphics 3000
Current Driver Installed - 9.17.10.2932

Driver Package version 15.28.12.64.2932 (9.17.10.2932) for Windows 7
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DIY-Ext. eSATA DVR Expander No Enclosure Bare HDD - WD Caviar Black WD1002FA


Optimus2357
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Well the release notes seem to state that issue is corrected, but I don't have any of the hardware yet to test. I was still in the planning phase of my build. So I will take your word on it. So there is no driver different between the Intel 3000 and the Intel 4000?



BryanInPHX
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Phoenix, AZ
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Which particular fix listed are you referring to in the Release Notes?

Mine is a 2nd Generation Intel Core i3-2105 Sandy Bridge with Intel HD Graphics 3000. The drivers are the same for 3rd Gen however.