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Shivek

@asianet.co.th

Buying a new video card (advise needed)

I currently have Core2Duo E6600 and 8GB RAM, both of which I cannot upgrade yet due to budget constraints. My current GPU is HD 4870 1GB and it won't be able to run Crysis 3 and other DX11 games.

Basically, I want to upgrade my GPU to run Crysis 3 and other DX11 games at least till the end of this year before I can buy myself a new PC.

What video card would you guys recommend me to get, which obviously won't be bottlenecked by my E6600? I was thinking of GTX 650 Ti, HD 6870, or HD 5870. What would you guys suggest? Thanks in advance.



Dissembled

join:2008-01-23
Indianapolis, IN

I suggest a GTX690.

That should run Crysis.



Gordo74
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join:2003-10-28
Monroeville, PA

said by Dissembled:

I suggest a GTX690.

That should run Crysis.

Also probably way out of his budget.

I would suggest a HD 7870 for the best price/performance ratio and shouldn't really be bottlenecked TOO bad with your setup.


kw
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join:2004-06-12
New Albany, OH
kudos:6
reply to Shivek

Just get the best video card you can afford and hang onto it until you can upgrade everything else. There's no point in getting a "meh" video card if you're just going to bottleneck it again when you upgrade.



Shivek

@asianet.co.th
reply to Shivek

My motherboard is Asus P5Q which supports PCI-express 2.0. Isn't the HD 7870 like PCI-e 3.0? Also the HD 7870 is out of my budget. I'm going for a cheap temporary mid-range card for now and I'll buy a whole new system at the end of this year.

For now, I just need this card to be in the price range of GTX 650 Ti, HD 5870, HD 6870... In that price range, what's the best card for my setup that won't be bottlenecked too much? Thanks again.



kw
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New Albany, OH
kudos:6
reply to Shivek

650ti or if you want to spend a few more dollars, HD 7850



Shivek

@asianet.co.th

Hahah, different currency for me, kw. BTW, you're saying that GTX 650 Ti is better than HD 6870/5870?

Also it's PCI-e 3.0... do you know if a PCI-e 3.0 card will work in a mobo which only supports PCI-e 2.0?



Shivek

@asianet.co.th
reply to Shivek

Basically, I want a card which is faster and gives better performance than the HD 4870 + DX 11 features. BTW, how's the GTX 460 compared to GTX 650 Ti / HD 6870 / HD 5870?



kw
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New Albany, OH
kudos:6
reply to Shivek

said by Shivek :

Hahah, different currency for me, kw. BTW, you're saying that GTX 650 Ti is better than HD 6870/5870?

Also it's PCI-e 3.0... do you know if a PCI-e 3.0 card will work in a mobo which only supports PCI-e 2.0?

»www.hwcompare.com/ should help you out a lot.

PCI Ex 2.0 vs 3.0 is going to be negligible. They're backwards compatible, but you likely wouldn't see a real-world difference anyway.


Gordo74
Premium
join:2003-10-28
Monroeville, PA
reply to Shivek

Any PCI-E 3 card will work in a PCI-E 2 slot.

Out of your suggestions, I would go 6870 or 5870 (5870 is faster than the 6870, but the 6870 does better on areas that use tessellation and the like)



Krisnatharok
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Earth Orbit
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reply to Shivek

said by Shivek :

What video card would you guys recommend me to get, which obviously won't be bottlenecked by my E6600? I was thinking of GTX 650 Ti, HD 6870, or HD 5870. What would you guys suggest? Thanks in advance.

Get a 7870 (or a 7950 if you can afford it). An obsolete card is not going to be a big enough upgrade to run Crysis 3.

Hell, the game makes my 7970 choke.
--
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.


Shivek

@asianet.co.th
reply to Shivek

I am getting a HD 6870 1 GB OC for $140. Is it worth it? Should I get it or should I get the HD 5870 which I'm getting for $130?



Gordo74
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join:2003-10-28
Monroeville, PA

said by Shivek :

I am getting a HD 6870 1 GB OC for $140. Is it worth it? Should I get it or should I get the HD 5870 which I'm getting for $130?

You would be happier with the 5870 - the 5870 is about equal to the 6950 in terms of performance.


Shivek

@asianet.co.th

But isn't the 5870 worse for newer DX11 games? I heard that the 6870 has newer DX11 technology.



Dissembled

join:2008-01-23
Indianapolis, IN
reply to Shivek

You have to determine what your bottom line budget is. Once you know that, you can use a chart similar to the one I have linked below to figure out the performance difference of cards in that price range. And yes, you should get a DX11 capable card.

»www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_···pus.html



Gordo74
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Monroeville, PA
reply to Shivek

said by Shivek :

But isn't the 5870 worse for newer DX11 games? I heard that the 6870 has newer DX11 technology.

No. The only thing the 5870 is worse in is tessellation. In every other category it crushes the 6870, however, it does use more power.


Krisnatharok
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The 6870 is slightly better at pixel rate.

»www.hwcompare.com/6023/radeon-hd···hd-6870/



Gordo74
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Monroeville, PA
reply to Shivek

Those are straight numbers, however, I like to compare real world tests.

»www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/294?vs=290

With numbers like that, it's blow for blow, with a slight edge to 5870.



Shivek

@asianet.co.th
reply to Shivek

Which is the best out of these:

HD 6870 / GTX 560 (Non-Ti) / GTX 470

Thanks in advance.



Gordo74
Premium
join:2003-10-28
Monroeville, PA

HD 6870 out of those.



Skit112

join:2001-08-06
Hoboken, NJ
reply to Krisnatharok

said by Krisnatharok:

Get a 7870 (or a 7950 if you can afford it). An obsolete card is not going to be a big enough upgrade to run Crysis 3.

Hell, the game makes my 7970 choke.

Really? My 680 FTW+ runs Crysis 3 on highest settings smooth as can be.


Krisnatharok
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At what resolution?



Skit112

join:2001-08-06
Hoboken, NJ

Damn you're fast... My monitor is 22" I'll have to check. I know the desktop is 1680x1050 I know the game is the highest res I can play it on this monitor.

I built the new puter last weekend and it's rockin. Thanks for your suggestions.



Krisnatharok
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That's 1.76 million pixels. 2560x1440 is 3.69 million pixels.

I also run a secondary monitor at 1680x1050, so there is a bit more load on my GPU (mostly from the mainscreen--running a secondary monitory detracts very little from FPS in a game).
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Skit112

join:2001-08-06
Hoboken, NJ

Well that explains it. What size monitors are you running?



Krisnatharok
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A 20" and a 27".



Skit112

join:2001-08-06
Hoboken, NJ

27" man that's a bit of real-estate. I may go with a 24" at some point but the 22" works for now.



Skit112

join:2001-08-06
Hoboken, NJ

Crysis 3 running at 1680x1050 I get between 45 and 60 FPS.



Krisnatharok
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That's fantastic, and sounds about right. Is that with all the DX11 goodies cranked to ultra?



Skit112

join:2001-08-06
Hoboken, NJ

said by Krisnatharok:

That's fantastic, and sounds about right. Is that with all the DX11 goodies cranked to ultra?

Yes it is. Man that game looks fantastic.