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haroldo

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Apple Says It, Too, Attacked By Hackers

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Apple Says It, Too, Attacked By Hackers

Apple said Tuesday that a small number of its employees’ computers were hacked through a vulnerability in the Java browser plug-in but said none of its internal data was compromised.
“Apple has identified malware which infected a limited number of Mac systems through a vulnerability in the Java plug-in for browsers,” the company said in a statement to AllThingsD. “The malware was employed in an attack against Apple and other companies, and was spread through a website for software developers. We identified a small number of systems within Apple that were infected and isolated them from our network. There is no evidence that any data left Apple. We are working closely with law enforcement to find the source of the malware.”
The company notes that it has been shipping Macs without Java since the release of Mac OS X Lion and also has a software mechanism that disables Java if it goes unused for 35 days. Apple is also releasing an updated software tool to detect and remove Java-related malware.. ...
»allthingsd.com/20130219/apple-sa···hackers/


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Some tech sites surmise the Chinese Army behind many of these attacks:
»www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/techn···all&_r=0
»intelreport.mandiant.com/
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Mike
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Oh Oracle.

You're really bad at maintaining Java.



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China denies it is behind the hacking:
»online.wsj.com/article_email/SB1···yWj.html

As for myself, I don't buy their denials.
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Kearnstd
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I bet we are hacking China daily too.

Hacking seems to be the cloak and dagger art of the internet age.

We know that no data got out of Apple because if someone stole the specs for the iPhone 6 or iPad 4, Apple would have deployed a squadron of iKill drones....
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said by Kearnstd:

I bet we are hacking China daily too.

Hacking seems to be the cloak and dagger art of the internet age.

We know that no data got out of Apple because if someone stole the specs for the iPhone 6 or iPad 4, Apple would have deployed a squadron of iKill drones....

I'd rather a war of hacking and words vs a war of bullets and bombs.
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said by Snakeoil:

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I'd rather a wire of hacking and words vs a war of bullets and bombs.

Hacking can potentially be as devistating.
Imagine the chaos if (or when) the power grid, monetary system, air traffic control system or internet being taken off line?
Imagine if our missiles are turned against us and launched?
I'm not smart enough to know if that can or can't happen...


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I think that the military network is separate from the civilian one, or one would hope so.

I think [or hope] the the vital stuff like Air traffic control, power grid, even the banking system is on a different network[s].
Sure your bank may have access for you on the normal internet, but does that mean their whole system is that easy to get into?
I'd hope not.
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said by Snakeoil:

I think that the military network is separate from the civilian one, or one would hope so.

I think [or hope] the the vital stuff like Air traffic control, power grid, even the banking system is on a different network[s].
Sure your bank may have access for you on the normal internet, but does that mean their whole system is that easy to get into?
I'd hope not.

Stuxnet crossed airgaps via USB flash drives inserted by scientists against IT guidelines.
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It's hard to protect against stupid.

And in that case the scientists open themselves up to termination and possible legal action by the company.



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said by Snakeoil:

I'd rather a war of hacking and words vs a war of bullets and bombs.

This. At least hacking doesn't kill people. Yet.
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Kearnstd
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Hacking cannot launch missiles yet. as far as I know nukes and even cruise missiles require a physical action to authorize a launch. Nukes need their keys turned and need launch codes. And cruise missiles likely still very much need a physical button pushed. I doubt we will ever give the keys to weapons that can kill masses of people completely over to a computer.
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said by Kearnstd:

... I doubt we will ever give the keys to weapons that can kill masses of people completely over to a computer.

what about drones?
wonder how much fun someone can have when they hack one of those bad boys


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said by haroldo:

said by Kearnstd:

... I doubt we will ever give the keys to weapons that can kill masses of people completely over to a computer.

what about drones?

Drones are controlled by remote controllers. And armed drones need a button pushed by that remote controller to arm & shoot a weapon.
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kerriskandie

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With the amount of 'stuff' across the World 'Made in China' they won't have to hack 'owt.....very soon it will come prehacked.............


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said by Snakeoil:

It's hard to protect against stupid.

And in that case the scientists open themselves up to termination and possible legal action by the company.

Do you know which worm I am talking about? The one that brought down the centrifuges in Iran's enrichment facilities? I'm not sure the government of Iran is going to sue a government employed scientist in Iranian court.

That aside, my counterpoint to yours still stands: separating networks is not enough to secure them. Often, it does nothing to secure them.
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Made in Taiwan, made in Vietnam, made in Malaysia, made in Thailand...Assembled in China...big difference and one that China is finding out as their cost of coastal labor continues to increase.



Stacy
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said by Snakeoil:

I think that the military network is separate from the civilian one, or one would hope so.

I think [or hope] the the vital stuff like Air traffic control, power grid, even the banking system is on a different network[s].
Sure your bank may have access for you on the normal internet, but does that mean their whole system is that easy to get into?
I'd hope not.

Wouldn't that make at least three internets? One for the military, a second for the banking/commerce, and a third for the 99% ?


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I think the military already has their own 'net. For the last few years they have been using their own net to play their war games.

»www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/no···t-cables

After reading the article, it seems their secure net isn't as secure as they'd like it to be. So it wouldn't surprise me, if they built yet another network.

Not sure if business does or not, though that would depend on the business. You'd think utilities would keep the "mission" critical stuff off the net or have it on a private network. But you never know, as bean counters like to keep costs down.
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