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navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to AlanM

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

I just played 3 videos at the default 360 default and they all played without buffering.

When I moved them up to 720p, then they buffered and the clip could not keep up.

Still a work in progress I see.


Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
kudos:1
reply to AlanM
Oh no just hit my first video since my last post that is buffering
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navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to JohnGalt21
said by JohnGalt21:

said by jk111:

Someone did mention in this forum that May 1 was the estimated day for the issues to be fixed, as per someone at Verizon. Maybe it actually happened. Finally.

Nah, they just got scared of the news threat . Nobody want's to be chased by reporter with a camera.

True. It would have been nice if they initially admitted there was a problem and let us know that they were working with google to have it fixed.

I am keeping my fingers crossed that this is fixed permanently.

batsona
Maryland

join:2004-04-17
Ellicott City, MD
Reviews:
·Vonage
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reply to AlanM
I went to show my daughter how to use proxFree last nite. I wanted to show her before-and-after. I went thru video after video (at 7PM local time) and EVERYTHING WORKED..... It wasn't lightening fast, but out of 10 videos, I think I only saw the buffering circle once, and then only for a few seconds. I couldn't get anything to fail....

JohnGalt21

join:2012-12-14
Ridgefield, NJ
reply to jk111
said by jk111:

Someone did mention in this forum that May 1 was the estimated day for the issues to be fixed, as per someone at Verizon. Maybe it actually happened. Finally.

Nah, they just got scared of the news threat . Nobody want's to be chased by reporter with a camera.

jk111

join:2013-01-27
reply to AlanM
Someone did mention in this forum that May 1 was the estimated day for the issues to be fixed, as per someone at Verizon. Maybe it actually happened. Finally.

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to Grover8
said by Grover8:

Wow it's so fast now. Loads the whole video in a few seconds.

What exactly happened? Anyone care to explain the sudden speed up?

It has been wacky for months. Verizon/Google obviously knew they had an issue on hand and apparently worked to fix it.

I am running youtube on both my laptop and roku box and both run perfectly in HD now.

Bytezboy

join:2001-05-17
New York, NY
reply to Grover8
Maybe nycdave can shed some light.
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Grover8

join:2012-01-06
Fresh Meadows, NY
reply to AlanM
Wow it's so fast now. Loads the whole video in a few seconds.

What exactly happened? Anyone care to explain the sudden speed up?

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to AlanM
I just checked the youtube channel on my Roku box. Wow!!!. I am finally able to watch the youtube channel on my Roku box after months of buffering.

Hope it holds up.

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD
reply to AlanM
I am on the bandwagon as well. Watching a 1080p video now. Haven't been able to do this for months.

I hope it holds up.


Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
kudos:1
reply to Vamp
Again I don't want to jump the gun but I think it might be fixed now.
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Bytezboy

join:2001-05-17
New York, NY

1 edit
reply to DjVaGGo
Same here, full speed 10.4MB/s on 1080p videos at 10:25PM.
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DjVaGGo
Premium
join:2004-10-23
Long Island City, NY
reply to Vamp
I second that, tonight youtube is running much better.


Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
kudos:1
reply to AlanM
Youtube is significantly improved for me tonight, not sure if another false alarm or if something is really being done.
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Bytezboy

join:2001-05-17
New York, NY
reply to JohnGalt21
said by JohnGalt21:

I agree. Getting this on the news would be the way to go. Anyone cares to post an email, or phone number to report this to?

David Pogue from the technology section of the New York Times.

pogue@nytimes.com


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wmcbrine
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join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
kudos:1
reply to blue_trooper
said by blue_trooper:

This qualifies as news?

By the standards of my local TV stations, yes, I think it would.
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JohnGalt21

join:2012-12-14
Ridgefield, NJ
reply to Vamp
Thanks for posting the youtube vid, but since I have FiOS, I can't watch it .


Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
kudos:1
reply to JohnGalt21
said by JohnGalt21:

I agree. Getting this on the news would be the way to go. Anyone cares to post an email, or phone number to report this to?

(NSFW)

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MN1vXO5JeI

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JohnGalt21

join:2012-12-14
Ridgefield, NJ
reply to kes601
said by kes601:

That's not news, perhaps a rival companies advertisement, but not news.

Even better, I'll get this info to Time Warner Cable.

kes601

join:2007-04-14
Virginia Beach, VA
kudos:2
reply to JohnGalt21
That's not news, perhaps a rival companies advertisement, but not news.

JohnGalt21

join:2012-12-14
Ridgefield, NJ
reply to blue_trooper
said by blue_trooper:

This qualifies as news?

Yeah - they could have a shot of a guy sitting in front of a computer staring at a blank youtube video, with slider stuck at 0%, and shaking his head.


Smith6612
Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:24
reply to blue_trooper
Sometimes you just need the media to make a stink about it to get a problem fixed, for as sad and unfortunate as it is.

blue_trooper

join:2007-04-17
Exton, PA
reply to JohnGalt21
This qualifies as news?

JohnGalt21

join:2012-12-14
Ridgefield, NJ
reply to Clodas
I agree. Getting this on the news would be the way to go. Anyone cares to post an email, or phone number to report this to?

Clodas

join:2009-01-13
Boston, MA

1 edit
reply to AlanM
While proxfree is a workaround for computers, it doesn't work on iOS devices. Unfortunately most of the browsing done at home and YouTube consumption is done on iPads and iPhones, so I need a solution at the router level so all devices can stream YouTube. HTML5 trick doesn't apply to mobile devices either. Ughh. So frustrating. I second reporting this to news outlets to see if it picks up some steam.

I may start using my Airport Extreme as a router (using double NAT) and configure the Airport with IPv6 to tunnel to Hurricane Electric's IPv6 network.


Jcink

join:2005-12-19
none
reply to AlanM
I tried the HTML5 trick and it really does work for me constistently. I tested a fairly large video (190MB-210MB) and these were the results. I pulled the direct link to the file and just watched the download speed of each.

The flash video/HTML5 player link:

smoothwall (root) ~/youtube $ wget "http://r14---sn-ab5e6nle.c.youtube.com/video                               playback?mv=m&ipbits=8&newshard=yes&expire=1367334450&fexp=903309%2C919112%2C912                               505%2C904829%2C914053%2C916624%2C910828%2C932000%2C932004%2C906383%2C906387%2C90                               4479%2C904482%2C902000%2C901208%2C929903%2C925714%2C929119%2C931202%2C900821%2C9                               00823%2C912518%2C911416%2C904476%2C908529%2C904830%2C930807%2C919373%2C906836%2C                               929602%2C930101%2C900824%2C912711%2C910075&sver=3&mt=1367311454&lowtc=yes&id=293                               f64e49364b096&key=yt1&upn=6_UG8gWKDDM&sparams=cp%2Cid%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Clow                               tc%2Cratebypass%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&cp=U0hVTFNOUl9KSkNONV9LSFZFOndWSm02YnNzZ                               ldj&ms=au&itag=44&ratebypass=yes&source=youtube&ip=[removed]&cpn=O5TsUYARb1C                               SGP8z&signature=[removed]" -O video.webm                                                                               --2013-04-30 18:19:26--  http://r14---sn-ab5e6nle.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?mv                               =m&ipbits=8&newshard=yes&expire=1367334450&fexp=903309%2C919112%2C912505%2C90482                               9%2C914053%2C916624%2C910828%2C932000%2C932004%2C906383%2C906387%2C904479%2C9044                               82%2C902000%2C901208%2C929903%2C925714%2C929119%2C931202%2C900821%2C900823%2C912                               518%2C911416%2C904476%2C908529%2C904830%2C930807%2C919373%2C906836%2C929602%2C93                               0101%2C900824%2C912711%2C910075&sver=3&mt=1367311454&lowtc=yes&id=293f64e49364b0                               96&key=yt1&upn=6_UG8gWKDDM&sparams=cp%2Cid%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Clowtc%2Crateby                               pass%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&cp=U0hVTFNOUl9KSkNONV9LSFZFOndWSm02YnNzZldj&ms=au&i                               tag=44&ratebypass=yes&source=youtube&ip=[removed]&cpn=O5TsUYARb1CSGP8z&signa                               ture=[removed]
Resolving r14---sn-ab5e6nle.c.youtube.com... 2001:4860:4003:7::13, 173.194.31.11                               5
Connecting to r14---sn-ab5e6nle.c.youtube.com|2001:4860:4003:7::13|:80... failed                               : Network is unreachable.
Connecting to r14---sn-ab5e6nle.c.youtube.com|173.194.31.115|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 222408683 (212M) [video/webm]
Saving to: `video.webm'
 
19% [============>                                                       ] 44,396,264  4.12M/s                 20% [============>                                                       ] 45,274,860  4.12M/s                 20% [=============>                                                      ] 46,153,780  4.14M/s                 21% [=============>                                                      ] 47,026,860  4.15M/s                 21% [=============>                                                      ] 47,904,320  4.15M/s                 21% [=============>                                                      ] 48,784,700  4.15M/s                 33% [=====================>                                               ] 73,709,812  4.16M/s  eta 35s       33% [======================>                                              ] 74,579,972  4.16M/s  eta 35s       100%[=====================================================================>] 222,408,683 2.47M/s   in 79s
 
2013-04-30 18:20:45 (2.70 MB/s) - `video.webm' saved [222408683/222408683]
 

Amazing speeds from the link served via the HTML5 player.

Now let's try the link served via flash player:

--2013-04-30 18:23:28--  http://r1---sn-p5qlsu7z.c.youtube.com/videoplayback?algorithm=throttle-factor&burst=40&cp=U0hVTFNOUl9KSkNONV9LSFZFOndWSm02YnNzZldj&expire=1367334450&factor=1.25&fexp=903309%2C919112%2C912505%2C904829%2C914053%2C916624%2C910828%2C932000%2C932004%2C906383%2C906387%2C904479%2C904482%2C902000%2C901208%2C929903%2C925714%2C929119%2C931202%2C900821%2C900823%2C912518%2C911416%2C904476%2C908529%2C904830%2C930807%2C919373%2C906836%2C929602%2C930101%2C900824%2C912711%2C910075&id=293f64e49364b096&ip=[removed]&ipbits=8&itag=35&key=yt1&lowtc=yes&ms=tsu&mt=1367311147&mv=u&newshard=yes&signature[removed]&source=youtube&sparams=algorithm%2Cburst%2Ccp%2Cfactor%2Cid%2Cip%2Cipbits%2Citag%2Clowtc%2Csource%2Cupn%2Cexpire&sver=3&upn=iuTsmYY97QI&ptk=youtube_none&cpn=FueJOdgPfYfDDbd7&redirect_counter=1&cms_redirect=yes
Resolving r1---sn-p5qlsu7z.c.youtube.com... 74.125.214.112
Connecting to r1---sn-p5qlsu7z.c.youtube.com|74.125.214.112|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 206857546 (197M) [video/x-flv]
Saving to: `video.flv'
 
 0% [                                                                        ] 1,539,789   3.67M/s              ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,340,133   1.57M/s              ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,405,669   1007K/s              ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,471,205    744K/s  eta 4m 28s  ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,536,741    596K/s  eta 4m 28s  ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,602,277    501K/s  eta 6m 38s  ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,666,353    435K/s  eta 6m 38s  ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,733,349    387K/s  eta 8m 35s  ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,798,885    350K/s  eta 8m 35s  ^ 1% [                                                                        ] 2,862,961    321K/s  eta 10m 21s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 2,929,957    297K/s  eta 10m 21s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 2,995,493    277K/s  eta 11m 57s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,059,569    261K/s  eta 11m 57s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,126,565    247K/s  eta 13m 26s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,190,641    235K/s  eta 13m 26s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,257,637    224K/s  eta 14m 47s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,323,173    215K/s  eta 14m 47s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,454,245    177K/s  eta 16m 2s  ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,650,853   70.1K/s  eta 18m 15s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,716,389   70.1K/s  eta 18m 15s ^ 1% [>                                                                       ] 3,847,461   70.1K/s  eta 19m 14s ^ 2% [>                                                                       ] 5,289,253   70.1K/s  eta 26m 45s ^ 2% [=>                                                                      ] 6,010,149   70.1K/s  eta 29m 15s
 

Tanked pretty quickly didn't it? They are certainly doing something different with the links served for the HTML5 beta.

navyson

join:2011-07-15
Upper Marlboro, MD

1 edit
reply to AlanM
I think I need to call CNN in order for them to do an investigative story on the issue in order to light the match under Verizon/google's butt so that at least they publicly acknowledge there is an issue. They haven't done that yet.

Proxfree is fine for computer use of youtube. My youtube channel on my roku box is virtually useless now. Can't watch anything.

batsona
Maryland

join:2004-04-17
Ellicott City, MD
Reviews:
·Vonage
·Verizon FiOS
reply to AlanM
For what it's worth, that proxFree thing works... It allows youtube content to come thru a different route than the Google-to-Verizon peering. Just don't log into anything that requires passwords I'm the paranoid security guy; you don't want the people who own ProxFree to have all your passwords...


Epyon9283
Premium
join:2001-12-26
Trenton, NJ
reply to AlanM
Just switched to Verizon from Comcast and have been noticing the horrible Youtube performance. Awesome.