It's not the backbone, if they hosted it in a Terremark CDN it would work better, but I'm sorry to say that everyone I talk to can't stream youtube from 5-11PM reliably. But at the same time I can stream 2 hidef streams from Netflix no problem or anything else. And as far as I know Verizon hasn't signed up for Netflix CDN yet.
I run my own DNS servers and have played with the
Plain and simple Youtube sucks and the fact that they use flash doesn't help. Maybe when HTML5 gets migrated it gets better, but Google is not doing a good job here.
Works like a charm on Time Warner ultimate internet here even at peak time usage hours. I been checking this forum since I am ordering fios due to upstream packet loss on time warner, but this thread is 1 small red flag to me with fios so far.
it is very bad today, to say its completely hosed would be an understatement....
I must have watched more than a dozen videos of varying qualities up to 1080p last night from 9PM to 1AM ET here (SE Pennsylvania) without a single glitch or buffer.
I have 50/25 FioS and changing this 23 minute vid to 1080p, the whole thing downloaded in 2 minutes flat . No troubles here, but I dont watch youtube often.
i tried to handle the IP blocking through my router and the results have not changed much. The first few days it seemed better, but I still have really bad days. So I don't know if the change has made any difference. Youtube buffering results have always been inconsistent.
Not sure why my previous comment was removed. Again all these changes to routers and blocking do not seem to change or enhance performance. There is no evidence that they are having the desired effect of improving streaming from google consistently.
Any change seen is either temporary or placebo or is taking place during non peak hours when you would expect to see improved performance.
Unlikely, I seem to get crappy streaming regardless of browser on my desktop or tablet, or if using the app on my Sony TV, phone, tablet... All pretty crappy including IE on the xbox or the Xbox youtube app... I dunno..
I have 50/25 FioS and changing this 23 minute vid to 1080p, the whole thing downloaded in 2 minutes flat . No troubles here, but I dont watch youtube often.
I did not have this problem with Comcast in my area, and I had 5/10 speed with them. Now I have 150/65. Ever since I got Fios it has been a nightmare trying to enjoy almost any videos on youtube.
Using apps, specially the Youtube app is the worst ever.
Don't know what to think. Nobody seems to know exactly what the problem is and who is at fault.
NOTE: Could it be a router issue? I assume most of us are dealing with the stupid Actiontech router that verizon gives us. People have told me that its the router so to test I hooked up OLD FAITHFUL, an old Linksys, and for the couple of hours that I had it hooked up I actually saw a big improvement with youtube! But the thing is, I only tested it for a short amount of time.
Are there any Fios customers using other routers? What is their experience on Youtube?
It's not a router issue, no. You probably just got lucky. I have never used the verizon router because I pay for FiOS business and I suffer slow speeds.
Don't know what to think. Nobody seems to know exactly what the problem is and who is at fault.
People who work in the networking industry (isps/ content providers/etc) know whos fault it is and what the problem is.
Its been said before.
Verizon (along with a select few others) is a tier1 transit provider. This basically means they 'are' the internet and do settlement free peering with all the other tier1 providers. This means bandwidth does not cost them money (they just have to increase their capacity). Google *buys* bandwidth from people. They bought bandwidth (or paid for peering) with Verizon and they are running their links at capacity.
Google could modify their BGP and push traffic to VZ over their other transit providers and fix it or they could pay VZ more money and buy more capacity. Its on google though. There is *Nothing* vz can do about this.
Now a lot of ISPs that are not tier1 transit providers like vz are happy to pier with google (usually for free) because that means they aren't paying for bandwidth used on their transit connections when traffic comes from google as they also have to pay for transit. VZ has no obligation or reason to do this because they don't have to pay for transit/bandwidth costs. If anything their is an incentive not to offer free peering because they could otherwise get money from that person as a customer instead.
Its not that difficult to understand.
Its like saying its vz should force a customer on a higher speed fios package because they saturate their connection alot. Its the customer's choice not the provider.
i was so pist off for two months because of youtube, i almost gave up on it. I tried the fix by adding the ip addresses to the advanced firewall section of my verizon router. I also added the browser config options below:
if you are using chrome browse, type 'chrome://flags' in the address bar of the browser. It will open a config page and look for an option to enable 'experimental pipelining'. You will then need to scroll down and click the restart button on the bottom after clicking the enable link for pipelining.
The primary reason cable company's and even Verizon wireless ( which is not a tier one provider ) is faster / better response with YouTube content is they cache most YouTube content within their network ( copy the content to locally servers owned by the ISP ), they don't do this for the end user, they do this because it saves money by not having to keep paying for the same content over and over again ( transits networks charges )
Verizon, our ISP, pays no such charges so there is no economic reason to have to buy, maintain and mange the caching servers.
Its as simple as that, Verizon users get there content direct from Google and is dependent on Google's resources ... tier two and three provider have local copies since its costs less overall
I've noticed that YouTube streaming has been pretty bad for the past couple of weeks. Prior to that, I had no issues. I tried both of the "fixes" linked to by "finally", 2 and 3 posts previous and there has been no improvement.
A vid will run for 10 - 15 secs, run out the buffer, hang for 5 - 10 secs and then continue and repeat. I did notice that it NEVER seems to happen in the prefix ads, if you let them run their full length...
I've used the YouTube app on my Samsung BluRay player. That's connected over my wireless LAN and there are no hangs with it.
I'm on a 25/25 provision that consistently tests at ~30d x 25u.
try changing to an hd resolution like 720 p or 1080 p after the video loads. There should be like a three second pause because of the ip rejection , but after switching the resolution it goes fast for me. Also, i do have my DNS set to google dns server. 8.8.8.8 or something like that (not sure if this helps).
Hopefully, someone else has the same results as me.
This past week has given me nothing but problems when trying to watch youtube vids. I have no problems watching them at school. This has just started recently and is annoying as hell!!
I have also been having problems the past week or so. The oe thing I have found is that being in auto mode seems to make it worse. When the video initially starts playing, it will buffer pretty slow then stop after 10-15 seconds. If I go directly to the settings and change the mode from auto to the highest def possible, it immediately resumes and plays with no problems after that.
I'm in NYC. I had time warner on an old computer before and youtube ran faster than my computer. I have super fast machine now and I regret to switching to verizon - youtube speed is worse than dial-up circa 1998. It definitely has to be a verizon problem and they should take every step to fix it.
The past 2 nights it has been worse than ever. Between 8 PM and 11:30 PM youtube videos don't even ATTEMPT to stream. You just get a still shot of the first frame. I let it sit for 10 minutes and NOTHING happened. No joke, this is totally ridiculous.
Spoke with them again. Basically he told my to open up cmd and type in "tracert youtube"..
From the results he told me there is "latency" on the "7th hop". At that point I was like DAFUQ. Basically google and verizon are trying to work out a way to sustain more users. He said it is a known issue and they are trying to resolve it.
This is definitely related to FiOS. Until 2 weeks ago I had Time Warner Cable, and never had issues with Youtube despite slow connection (15/1). Now that I switched to FiOS (75/35), I can't watch any Youtube video without it stopping in the middle and taking ages to start playing again.