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reply to michael3314

Re: Horrible youtube speeds

For what it's worth, I've had issues with Comcast and streaming Youtube for a while now, often not being able to pull in 1080P videos in any reasonable time.

HOWEVER

Verizon FIOS' performance is completely unacceptable. My good buddy has Verizon, and I have Comcast. The dramatic difference in performance of YouTube is like night and day between the two at the moment, and that's saying something, considering Comcast's isn't all that great, either.

It's extortion, really. That's all it is.

In fact, I found this thread after looking at this reddit post: »www.reddit.com/r/baltimore/comme···on_fios/

And the comments I've been having with my buddy over the weekend with his FIOS YouTube performance.

reply to hubrisnxs
Do you think we can at least keep it to this year? All of your posts are two or three years ago. The only current one is about Netfix which is not in this conversation. Lets deal with the current problem.

reply to MrFujiKicker

reply to AlanM
Guys,

It is not a universal problem. I can stream 1080p videos regularly at work with no problems. No buffering. At home, a 360p video on my 50/20 FIOS connection struggles most times.

What makes me more disappointed is that I just recently upgraded from 25/25 to 50/25 and that made absolutely no difference.

I am thinking of downgrading right now save my $10 a month

reply to AlanM
Well since people keep saying its FIOS, I'll keep it repeating with the facts. Nothing in Verizon control is causing the delays and buffering. This is 100% with in Google's control.

When you press "play" in the YouTube player, Google decides from where that stream will be sent to your device, its not the IP when you ping YouTube, it can only be check when your playing the video ( netstat or other packet sniffer ). As the recent posting shows, on the Time-Warner network, its defaulted to an overloaded X/O commutations caching server, which Google decides on what to use.

You can pound your feet all you want, these are the facts. Google is throttling, Not Verizon as there is nothing Verizon alone can change to make it work any different.

reply to michael3314

reply to guppy_fish
Why do the folks who are absolutely convinced this is a Verizon issue absolutely refuse to contact Verizon about it? Getting all fist-shaky and ragey about it on a message board doesn't seem like the best problem solving technique in that situation.

Or the media? Comcast throttled Bittorent - largely used to transfer pirated content - and the media went apeshit. You don't think the media (Comcast's NBC in particular) would be interested if Verizon were throttling the legal and popular YouTube?

As many have said, this is not a Verizon directed issue, and the resolution to it cannot be Verizon directed.

reply to bohratom

reply to AlanM
I have had nothing but troubles with youtube with FIOS and in the time I had Cablevision Optonline I NEVER had problems and I mean never. Its the only site with those issues for me so I deal but its the one thing I hate about my FIOS svc.

It is unfortunate that the YouTube performance is so hit or miss, I see the same thing, but its clear, this is Google's decision, not Verizon's.

Its possible, Google is using the play book from video content providers, this is like sending out warning to call your cable provider as they won't give us money and your going to lose channel 1234 ...

The fact nycdave knows this is an issue mean the people that are in the know at Verizon know this is an issue ...

I have a feeling this is an indicator of something larger than what we are discussing here.

For example, just for the sake of discussion, lets say a large cable company, that happens to now be in TV broadcasting, decided to give preference to a certain content company, said content company then allocates more resources for the cable company ... so said cable company has a competitive advantage

This is something I completely made up, but, for those that aren't history buffs may want to read up on what was the driving force for the Sherman anti-trust act. Also the laws the limited any one company's holding in radio / TV have been basically eliminated over the last two decades. The Internet is a very new medium, and many things have yet to happen and laws to be written ... food for thought

In the end its an annoyance but everything else is spot on with my FIOS. I wish whoever has to do something to make this work properly finally gets to it because its been this way since I signed on to FIOS my 1st time and when I went to CV for a while in between I never had these problems but had a host of others.

reply to AlanM
Had issues viewing 360p videos at 9pm today. It's the first time in a while since I've experienced it.
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75/35 Fios, Triple Play Extreme.

reply to bohratom
If you're running linux, check out pktstat. It's a real-time monitor. You may want to try some of the command line options to get better results.

At 6:00 a.m., a youtube feed comes in with no problems from 74.125.0.x, with x being somewhere in the range of 41 and 46. Checking at various times of day may be useful to locate the IP source to see if it changes.

Here's a pic of the last month, which has been FAST compared to most of 2011 and 2012.

Something has changed. A video from youtube that I tried to watch yesterday that paused 17 times now buffers in less than a minute. Congrats to Verizon or Youtube for fixing this problem.

reply to bsh
Where is that chart from? Id like to take a look at other similar charts.