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Re: Garbage HOA Why the hell do people live in a HOA? I have never a person happy with a HOA.
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Novato, CA | said by Bruschi:Why the hell do people live in a HOA? I have never a person happy with a HOA.
20% of the US lives in an HOA.
Most are happy, no one is happy when they are the ones violating the rules and regualtions.
Not for everyone, but every single person living in an HOA CHOSE to live there when they bought it and signed the papers.
Some common reasons:
No cars on blocks in the neighbros yard.
No lime green houses.
Shared common areas and street landscaping.
Common insurance (lower cost in bulk).
Less maintenance by the homeowner, which is why Florida is so high; the owners are older and don't want to work on the house.
Basic architectural standards to keep the community nice.
If you disagree with a rule, fight for it's change. You and the neighbors are the association, but it is a majority rules democracy. |
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said by John97:In some areas, that is nearly impossible. I have always been part of the anti-HOA crowd. But, when facilitating my move to FL I found it was a reality I'd have to learn to accept. People like the HOA scene until it prevents them from doing what they want that is against the rules.
You really couldn't find any house in your hometown that wasn't in an HOA? |
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Here in Houston there are no Zoning laws so if you don't get in with an HOA someone can open a junk yard next door.
I have lived in this hood for almost 13 years and in that time the neighborhood has not changed due to Deed Restrictions.
I lived down the road from here in the '70's and it hasn't changed since then.
Dave
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said by Msradell:It seems like a copy of the HOA document you have don't have any reference to this restriction, is that true? If so, did you ever receive notice of a meeting to change this part of your restrictions? Did you ever receive and amended copy of the restrictions? It sounds like the board may be trying to pull something over on the owners. You should probably consult a lawyer.
It also doesn't sound like your shutters are actually "put up" because they are retracted. "Putting them up" would mean putting them into the operational position IMHO.
I've been in Greenville, SC for business for the past couple months and she emailed me the letter up here. I had nothing to do with the decision. The letter seems to state that my roll up setup is included even when they're up but my OP was sort of a beer fueled rant more than actual fact as to what they've done here. 
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As a city dweller I have no experience with an HOA nor do I ever desire to.
However I do feel your pain, and as such I took great delight in reading a story in last week's WaPo about a couple who took on the HOA regarding a petty dispute over a campaign sign.. and ended up bankrupting the HOA.
»www.washingtonpost.com/local/fai···ory.html |
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The way I read the letter you posted it says that they can't stay closed covering the windows and doors. Granted the wording is vague but that could be to your benefit.
[edit] I have worked on very expensive houses in this area which had them. They were not for storm protection. They used them to block the afternoon sun on massive amounts of glass (houses with lake views). In othe words, that type of shutter does more than provide storm protection. Perhaps another angle. |
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said by Bruschi:Why the hell do people live in a HOA? I have never a person happy with a HOA.
Wives are why myself and other people are in a HOA. I would have been fine in an apartment  |
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said by djrobx:I spent a decent amount of money putting hurricane shutters on my house and they are non-removable other than unbolting them from the outer walls. You should have gotten approval from your HOA's architectural group before making a permanent change to the exterior. Then you wouldn't have a problem even if they made "ammendments", because you would have had written approval. That would have given the HOA an opportunity to address aesthetic concerns. I did have to get approval before they were installed and it was ok until this came up. I need to talk to them and see if I'm grandfathered in since I have a "Modification Compliance" approval signed from 09 by the then president of our association.
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Peterborough, ON | reply to bobjohnson
May be cold up here but at least this HOA BS is rare. In fact I have never encountered one in Ontario other than some anal condo Boards. Guess I'll have to look into this garbage before I take over my parents place in Davenport FL. |
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said by bobjohnson:I did have to get approval before they were installed and it was ok until this came up. I need to talk to them and see if I'm grandfathered in since I have a "Modification Compliance" approval signed from 09 by the then president of our association.
So the shutters have been up for 3 years? Sounds like you should be OK.
Or maybe they were rolled down when they shouldn't have been and someone noticed?? |
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Dayton, MD | reply to pike
Sometimes cities are the über HOA. Rules are made as laws and serious fines will be assessed. |
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said by guppy_fish:Its a thankless job...
If your unhappy with something, go to a meeting an discuss your concerns, if you still not happy, you may consider running for office,and then YOU get to make rules and changes, or at least suggest them so the HOA member can vote them in or out.
So it's not a thankless job. It's a self-serving one, where the winners get to sit on a board and get to define things they way they like.
HOAs are the greatest scam since Bernie Madoff. The county gets a free pass on services the homeowner already pays for through taxes, then distracts their attention by letting them play King of the Hill among themselves.
I'll never buy a house with an HOA. When the road at the end of my driveway gets snow, the county clears it. When I bring the garbage out, the county clears it. When there's a pothole, the county fixes it. All things I already paid for. Why should I have to pay for them again. *and* hear nonsense from the HOA about what color garbage cans I can use? |
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said by morbo:You really couldn't find any house in your hometown that wasn't in an HOA?
I looked all over a 3-county area as I was relocating for a job. I had particular needs, i.e. a house big enough for my family and with the amenities we wanted.
I looked at nearly 40 houses, about 5 were HOA-free. Unfortunately, none of them worked for me. I am quite happy here. There is nothing in the code that would infringe on anything I can envision doing here.
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The op should consider moving to a town/country that allows you to buy and own the property, rather than rent it from the HOA/town/county. There are advantages to living out in the boonies. |
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| said by disconnected :The op should consider moving to a town/country that allows you to buy and own the property, rather than rent it from the HOA/town/county. There are advantages to living out in the boonies.
Of course, there is the major disadvantage of the $'s required for gasoline was he constantly raising prices! |
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Annapolis, MD | reply to disconnected
For clarity, property under HOA control is usually owned by the homeowner. The property owner is bound by the covenants of the HOA, however, much in the same way that rural property owners are bound by the land use laws of their applicable county/state. |
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If your hurricane shutters were installed three years ago the HOA has already received constructive notice and cannot now require you to remove them. There have been so much bullying by HOA's that the State of Florida has set up rules and regulations to handle these issues. You have the right to file a complaint. See this section at MyFlorida.com:
»www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/ls···ers.html
This is the contact number for the division:
Telephone Inquiries Regarding All Program Areas
Customer Contact Center 850.488.1122
Years ago the division only covered Condominiums but Section 720 was added to cover HOA's. |
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Novato, CA | reply to pike
said by pike:As a city dweller I have no experience with an HOA nor do I ever desire to.
However I do feel your pain, and as such I took great delight in reading a story in last week's WaPo about a couple who took on the HOA regarding a petty dispute over a campaign sign.. and ended up bankrupting the HOA.
»www.washingtonpost.com/local/fai···ory.html
Now THAT IS a classic case of an HOA board that never had a clue. Since the dues were $650 a year, it was more of an architectural committee than anything else. (Dues are now $3250 thanks to the asshole government laywer who sued, but his points were correct which is why he won)
This is the reason California and many other states have laws regulating HOA's, that HOA never read their state laws or their own CC&R's. You cannot just say we are going to fine you $900 for minor offenses, only a government entity can be that obscene.
Most every HOA has a private hearing to discuss the issue, rarely are fines assessed. That HOA board (Dummies) should have consulted a professional management company and an HOA lawyer.
Again, they are idiots in that HOA but HOA's exist as the people bought into them to have rules. And the idiot that sued maybe right, but his property value now dropped since they lost the neighborhood park and his dues went way up. |
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Rochester, NY | reply to bobjohnson
Maybe the HOA would be ok with this.
»floridahurricanedepot.com/clear_···nels.htm |
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