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[Northeast] Fios in Purcellville, VASo I'm building a new house in Purcellville, VA and was getting to the point of just accepting that I wouldn't be able to get Fios because they aren't in Purcellville, but are in Leesburg which is 10 miles away. Purcellville is all Comcast. Well out visiting the new construction to check on things last night and there are a ton of workers trenching and pulling some type of cable through the ground. I ask one of them what is going on and what they are laying and he says fiber for Fios. Wow, as far as I know no other area in Purcellville has Fios but they are putting it in our new subdivision on the outside of town. Yeah for me. |
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buckinghamDoylstown Pa Premium Member join:2005-07-17 Buckingham, PA |
Since VZ is the incumbent voice provider for the area and this is a new development, perhaps they decided that it wasn't prudent to install copper. It also depends upon what CO is going to service your new development...if that CO is FiOS equipped, it would account for going that route instead of copper. |
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Anon
2013-Feb-22 8:00 am
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Our Purcellville neighborhood was rin with conduit for fils but 9 years later it still hasn't been installed. |
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JimG31 join:2011-11-01 Waterford, VA |
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Verizon ran fiber, supposedly for FIOS over six months ago but have not offered the service. I'm in Waterford near Hamilton but have no DSL, Cable only fixed point wireless is available. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA ·Comcast XFINITY
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Any information if VZ intends to complete construction within the town boundaries? The subdivision I live in does not have any remote terminals for the copper, but has fiber-optics in place from the 90s (Bell Atlantic Fiber Optic) that are probably doing nothing, running near the homes. |
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said by Zenit_IIfx:Any information if VZ intends to complete construction within the town boundaries? The subdivision I live in does not have any remote terminals for the copper, but has fiber-optics in place from the 90s (Bell Atlantic Fiber Optic) that are probably doing nothing, running near the homes. I don't know. I was up at our new house yesterday for a builder meeting and there were verizon trucks everywhere. They were even out on the road outside our division stringing fiber up on the poles. The verizon web site says I can get FIOS internet only at the address I'll be moving into soon. |
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ANWDREW
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2013-Apr-11 4:59 am
Adelphia too Comcast, now have FIOS. Potomac Falls va 20165Hi neighbors, I had Adelphia which is now Comcast, Comcast improved service greatly when FIOS came to our area. I have friends with Comcast or FIOS. We game some so there seems to be better game play/ WEB DL with Comcast. And price little lower. Order of TV clarity *best to worst *DTV, FIOS, Comcast. Makes absolutely no sense to buy a hi end TV and have a bad picture. Back until 2005. $400k TH with no HSI, we live across the street from Dulles town center. Had the dark fiber from the CO to the light span box, VZ at the time did not want to change the switch FIBER/Copper too much $$. They finally did FIBER ONT-CO in 2008, So I like FIOS its a little more $$ but I love the HSI uptime. DVR gets on my nerves. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA ·Comcast XFINITY
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Re: [Northeast] Fios in Purcellville, VAI have also observed heavy VZ truck traffic in Western Loudoun on my commute over Route 7.
On Main Street in Purcellville, I have observed what looks like the beginning of FIOS - fiber trunks with splice cases at a decent interval are up, but not connected to anything. No GPON splitters yet (the white boxes). Perhaps the splitter is in the CO since its close. Currently they seem to only be doing the stretch of houses near Old Town on the side closest to Round Hill, extending from the Central Office up to Franklin Park but no further.
One can only hope that VZ will not take the easy route and only wire the overhead areas or one section of town.
While Comcast's service has been pretty good here (a nice side effect of being served out of the Sterling head end), competition would be a good thing to reduce prices and improve service from both sides. |
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Yeah my new house is over near Franklin Park. I believe they are done with fiber in our development since they have been moving down Silcott Springs Road/32nd street east and then north up 32nd. I have seen them in my area in a week but there was a lot of stuff going on last week on the lines. In my front yard I have a green Verizon box in the ground. |
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TDLA1 join:2008-03-15 Purcellville, VA |
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I heard this past week that Fios has being installed in the Villages of Round Hill and individual home installs are happening in the next month. How did the Fiber run miss the town of Purcellville completely? |
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I had an install scheduled in Purcellville on May 26th. It didn't happen. They told me engineering bumped my install since it wasn't ready yet. I then was pushed to June 8th, they said the earliest they could do it was the 5th. Then I called on the 5th about my install on the 8th and they said it won't be ready till the 12th. They are supposed to call me on the 12th to tell me if they are ready to go for an install on the 15th or not. The fiber is in Purcellville, you can see it and the boxes up on the lines. The fiber is in the ground in front of my house as well, new development and I talked to the line people when they were putting it in and stringing it to the development. I think the town itself pushed back on Verizon for some stupid reason and delayed everything. I will post here when I get installed but if it doesn't happen this next weekend I may be forced to cancel my order and go with Comcast until Verizon get's it act together. They shouldn't have been able to schedule an install for me without a product being available. |
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tito79
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2013-Jun-10 8:34 pm
It really well could be a hardware order problem. |
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I have officially been rescheduled for this saturday (15th). They are still supposed to call me tomorrow to tell me if that is going to really happen or not so we'll see. |
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I called them (since they didn't call me) and they confirmed that yes I am on for Saturday, so we'll see. |
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Well as of this afternoon I'm up and running on fios Internet. I am one of about 10 that have had installs in purcellville. So it is available. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA ·Comcast XFINITY
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Over here on the east side of town (near the giant) there has been no FIOS construction yet. I still have a feeling that VZ will just skip over most of the town, but of course it is possible that there is a delay with construction.
Living in a development with underground utilities probably does not help, but at least we have fiber in the ground from the Bell Atlantic days. (Fiber that is not available for FTTH...yet) |
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jeeden
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2013-Jul-23 1:35 pm
So my father (who lives in Farmington on the Green, just north of Woodmar mentioned above) was having issues with line noise on his DSL. Verizon sent out the contractor and they fixed it. While working, the guy mentioned that he expects fiber in his neighborhood in the next few months and moving through Purcellville for in the coming year. He said Verizon is pushing very hard on it because the franchise agreement they signed with the county said they had to provide FIOS to western Loudoun as well and do it withing a certain amount of time (some internet searching led me to an agreement signed in 2006 that said within 7 years).
I'm in Hirst Farm not far from Woodmar and I believe we have conduit buried from initial construction, I'm hoping our housing density (only thing good about our housing density) and having the conduit ready to go will make us one of the next stops. |
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I have a coworker who lives over there jeeden and he is stuck with DSL, I'll have to let him know that it is probably coming in a few months. |
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jeeden join:2013-07-23 Purcellville, VA |
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Found the franchise agreement. Looks like the good stuff is on page 10, and page 61, but they removed the service map at Verizon's request from public view so competition doesn't see it. » www.loudoun.gov/document ··· ew/85003 |
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Actually, here is a ppt they had on the extended area. It looks like Verizon tried to say that the density didn't matter and it had to be existing video services. Sounds like the county countered saying it could have been existing video service or density that would make verizon have to put fios in. Either way, we live in the areas that verizon didn't say were excluded at least, because I'm not sure who one the argument. » www.loudoun.gov/document ··· ew/86048 |
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Thanks for those documents. I was looking for them months ago and even emailed the Purcellville local gov't utility and tech person for information and they never contacted me back. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA ·Comcast XFINITY
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So, from what I understand from the franchise agreement and powerpoint, Verizon has to put FIOS where Comcast has their plant? They mention Video Services, which I assume is alluding to the local Cable MSO. (Not taking into account other restrictions/limitations in the agreement)
The power-point also shows a dark side of VZ - they are once again abandoning large swaths of territory, even near the town. Nonsensically, they will wire 1 or 2 houses just to meet a regulatory requirement? (Going by the excluded zones in the PowerPoint - black for wired, purple for excluded)
At least it looks like the County will at a minimum manage to get service available within the town borders. Competition will be a positive thing. |
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2013-Aug-8 7:43 am
said by Zenit_IIfx:So, from what I understand from the franchise agreement and powerpoint, Verizon has to put FIOS where Comcast has their plant? They mention Video Services, which I assume is alluding to the local Cable MSO. (Not taking into account other restrictions/limitations in the agreement) That makes perfect sense, all utilities should be placed in a common right-of-way. It serves as a good future reference of where not to dig up the yard without having the lines marked by the utilities firsthand. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA |
No, what I meant is that the agreement seems to require FIOS where Comcast provides service + the 30 homes per strand mile for deployment requirement - not the right of way.
"Existing Video Services" is not very clear. |
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jeeden
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2013-Aug-12 3:50 pm
I think that Verizon says it is where any video (ie cable) already exists AND there are 30+ homes per mile. The county and I believe the document say where any video already exists OR there are 30+ homes per mile. I think that the ppt only showed some examples the county was calling them out on, I bet the doc that was redacted had a bunch more. I don't see Verizon just picking those few.
For what it is worth, I happen to know that Farmington on the Green (just north and connecting to Woodmar Farms) has a petition going around for the FIOS to be presented to Verizon. Not sure what everyone thinks it will do, but I guess the HOA lawyer is handling it. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA ·Comcast XFINITY
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Anyone have any updates on deployment in the town limits? As far as I can see, there has been no change since we last discussed the topic.
Hopefully local politics are not getting in the way, or the town limits will never see FIOS. (Aside from that small stretch of Western Main St.) |
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jeeden
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2013-Oct-3 9:38 am
I have an update. The Farmington on the Green subdivision near Franklin Park sent out a notice to homeowners that they have marked all utilities (I thought I noticed this while driving through there) prior to the upcoming install of FIOS. Flyers have been placed on the doors by Verizon and the contractor doing the work (S&N Communications) announcing the install. When asked by the HOA when comms would actually be available on the new installs Verizon replied with "early next year" for usage. There is a large phone comms box at the bottom of Tranquility road, I wonder if they are bringing FIOS there and so FOTG is the first logical neighborhood to install after that. Of course, discussing the town issue above, FOTG is outside of the town limits (lucky people, the town has been trying forever to get them into the town limits). |
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buckinghamDoylstown Pa Premium Member join:2005-07-17 Buckingham, PA |
Unlikely that anything related to FiOS would use an existing "phone comms box" in the neighborhood. The fiber plant comes out from the CO directly to various intermediate distribution points and AFAIK, they've never put fiber in the same boxes as copper. It's a completely different setup. The fiber distribution boxes are generally tan in color and either pole mounted or in new in-ground vaults if deployment is underground. |
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On my way out this morning I drove past their entrance and there were a lot of utility trucks and trenching machines which I can only assume was there to start the installation of the fiber and whatever else is needed. I am just down the road in woodmar farm and we are all active. Farmington on the green dumps out into our area so it is all very close. |
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Zenit_IIfxThe system is the solution Premium Member join:2012-05-07 Purcellville, VA ·Comcast XFINITY
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A minor update, but in Old Town by the stores, on Main St, VZ has some VERY FAT Corning Fiber Optic cable up, but just dangling and not terminated into anything. No progress otherwise within the west end of town. So far, nothing has been built on the east end of the town. |
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