 xsbell
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Re: What does the CBB ruling mean to you and me? said by hm :So far Acanac is the first with some new pricing out. It's listed on their forum, »community.acanac.com/acanac/. But, subject to change. Pricing to be confirmed & on their webpage March 1st.
Their plans are ridiculous. And what are peak hours, 5pm - 11pm? lol
$45.95/month for 8Mbps (during peak hours, 18Mbps off-peak, no term)
$49.95/month for 14Mbps (during peak hours, 28Mbps off-peak, no term)
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| said by xsbell:$49.95/month for 14Mbps (during peak hours, 28Mbps off-peak, no term)
So, for 25% of the day, you're going to receive HALF the speed you're paying full price for.
Wow. No thanks. |
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| said by camelot:said by xsbell:$49.95/month for 14Mbps (during peak hours, 28Mbps off-peak, no term)
So, for 25% of the day, you're going to receive HALF the speed you're paying full price for. No you're not paying full price for it. By comparison TSI's prices for the same service is 58$ and 70$. You're getting a 20% discount. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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said by camelot:So, for 25% of the day, you're going to receive HALF the speed....
'GOING TO' is the wrong choice of words.
Some nights NO REDUCTION would take place, and on others, it could be for as little as 10 minutes, and by as little as 1 Mbps reduced, or as much as half of your speed reduced for the whole peak period, but only to whatever degree it is neccessary.
You gotta read what they said one more time, before hitting the panic button. 
And to the poster above you :
Figure that Acanac's packages are ridiculous ?
Just WAIT until March 1st or so, when many of the other Indie ISPs start to post THEIR plans too !
Theirs may well be worse ! |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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said by DSL_Ricer:No you're not paying full price for it. By comparison TSI's prices for the same service is 58$ and 70$. You're getting a 20% discount.
AND Acanac has no monthly usage limits.
But you didn't hear these 2 folks (or anyone else) complain about THAT, eh ?!
CRICKETS on THAT point !
Hey, it's tough - arguing with pessimists.
Actually, if we were paying (for example) for 14 Mbps and getting 28 for at least 3/4 of the hours (or more), that would be a bonus speed boost. |
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It really depends on how Acanac overprovisions their service. If they aim to only have slightly more than enough capacity to handle peak load at the minimum speeds, then speed will be reduced for more of the 5hr period than not.
But an interesting idea though as long as they're good with network capacity management (and Rogers cooperates with upgrades in a timely fashion). |
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2 edits | said by mario9999998:It really depends on how Acanac overprovisions their service....
True, and it will vary from night to night, and minute by minute.
And the same will apply to some other providers who do the same as what you said anyway, and are not honest enough to explain their way of doing things up front.
And it's not just with Rogers.
Acanac says that they do this with their services thru Bell & Videotron too, and if they hook to Cogeco's AGG POI (as my inside info says they will soon), rest assured that they will also do it there - ESPECIALLY there, as GOUGEco charges them the highest $$ for circuit capacity of all 4 incumbents which I just mentioned.
And if doing this helps Acanac be more competitive in price, then their network management method might be a good thing. |
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said by InvalidError:said by dillyhammer:Ever wonder why many of the incumbents' usage meters are so horribly inaccurate in their favour? Back when I was with Videotron, my Tomato usage was usually within 100MB of what Videotron was reporting with Tomato being ahead most of the time. That's a ~0.3% discrepancy, usually in my favor. That's been my experience too, but rather when I was away on a trip out of country I noticed something like 50-meg (forget the exact value) a day on the usage tracker. I'll have to check that again sometime. But yeah in a month you could rack up 1-gig of usage just for keeping your videotron modem on (and only the modem).
I haven't ever been charged for 1-gig extra before, nor would I accept it due to this. But it's been a long time since I last shut everything off for a couple of weeks straight. Things could have change since then. Something for me to check one day to see how things changed... if they did. |
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said by xsbell:said by hm :So far Acanac is the first with some new pricing out. It's listed on their forum, »community.acanac.com/acanac/. But, subject to change. Pricing to be confirmed & on their webpage March 1st.
Their plans are ridiculous. And what are peak hours, 5pm - 11pm? lol $45.95/month for 8Mbps (during peak hours, 18Mbps off-peak, no term) $49.95/month for 14Mbps (during peak hours, 28Mbps off-peak, no term) (That's for Ontario only. ^^) You are taking what Acanac said out of context. That is the very worse case scenario that can happen. Not what happens.
It actually isn't that bad. And the prices are good. But it's not for me. It will be a cold day in hell before I ever went back to a bell service of any kind.
On the other hand though, since Acanac's IPTV is all on the same pipes, and since Acanac's IPTV is just launching and it's effects aren't really felt yet, it seems to me that their IPTV traffic will be paid for by those who don't use IPTV. So seems Acanac is shifting some of the costs of this unto others. That is, this non-internet traffic will affect your throttle time-range on the net.
But again, on the other hand, Acanac has zero usage limits.
It's an attractive package.
Also, peak time is as defined here: » Re: What does the CBB ruling mean to you and me?. Not 5-11.
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kudos:20 | said by hm :It actually isn't that bad. And the prices are good. But it's not for me. It will be a cold day in hell before I ever went back to a bell service of any kind. Those are cable prices, not DSL prices.
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said by xsbell:Their plans are ridiculous. And what are peak hours, 5pm - 11pm? lol
$45.95/month for 8Mbps (during peak hours, 18Mbps off-peak, no term)
$49.95/month for 14Mbps (during peak hours, 28Mbps off-peak, no term)
(That's for Ontario only. ^^)
Why are you viewing their plans in a negative light? Who are you trying to convince that it's a bad deal?
Compared to the other providers, those prices for even the speeds you've suggested they represent (which they don't) are in line. Teksavvy offers unlimited 14/1 for $48.95 a month. The only plan from start that is unlimited is their 6/.256 plan for $39.95, which if you're complaining about slow speeds I don't imagine is something you'd consider.
So, for $1 more per month ($5 less if you pay for a year) you get the same as the next competitor PLUS double the speed for the majority of the day PLUS a free VPN if you're at all concerned about recent court filings PLUS 100gb of online storage if you have files you want to backup off site.
Really, what is there to complain about in their pricing? Show me a better deal. I've been looking for about 2 years now and nothing comes close. |
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@videotron.ca | reply to Guspaz
said by Guspaz:said by hm :It actually isn't that bad. And the prices are good. But it's not for me. It will be a cold day in hell before I ever went back to a bell service of any kind. Those are cable prices, not DSL prices. Or Rogers
Either way, the prices are good. Even better on a year contract. It's 20$-something less expensive than TSI for unlimited. For many people the blip in speed means nothing as long as nothing else is affected or changed. |
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DavesnothereNo-BHELL-ity DOES have its Advantages
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said by hm :It actually isn't that bad....
I only just got to thinking.
Mayhaps we got trolled.
In stereo, no less ! 
We should know better by now.
Or is it BKTTW again ? |
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xsbell
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said by Samgee:Show me a better deal. I've been looking for about 2 years now and nothing comes close.
I'm not trying convince anyone that it's a bad deal, my gripe is calling it a 28Mbps plan when you're only going to get 18Mbps when you use it.
How about 35/3 for $49.95/month from Start, and they won't rate limit during peak hours. Sure it's only 250GB of usage, but honestly, how many people are going to go over that? Not too many. |
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You got trolled.
I played along.
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To each their own. I'd prefer an unlimited and somewhat throttled internet vs an unthrottled but capped internet any day of the week. Even if I don't use 250GB per month today (which I don't) i don't want to have to worry about it tomorrow. And I feel the support needs to be there for unlimited internet more than speed increases, which for most needs are negligible (in today's internet) and I do a lot of video streaming on my current 18/0.5 connection. Most, if not all, buffering issues are on the server end, not my end. |
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Re: What does the CBB ruling mean to you and me? I will not get into the max rate limit since it has already been discuses in the previous posts.
In regards to your question if 250GB is enough? In my opinion not even close. If your an over the top IPTV client you can easily expect to exceed 250GB. Over the last several months I have been consistently using over 1TB per month. This is with 3-4 -STB's in the house. Usually 3 since one is in debug mode. |
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| I agree 100%. We need to support unlimited more than anything else.
And just so everyone knows, I'm not with Acanac. |
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