Rogers → Re: Unlimited Internet option on Rogers for a limited time

Lets get a few things straight here, rogers got this unlimited promotion for only one reason and one reason only and that's BELL's unlimited offer. You think rogers was just going stand around there watching bell dis rogers tiny caps on TV ads (yes bell did have TV ads on this and they were clearly directed at rogers), cable cos don't particularly like getting beat by telcos and rogers is no exception here. As long as bell keeps unlimited on their retail, rogers will too; its not a coincidence that all this time rogers always had larger caps than bell, more generous discounts than bell, lower overall prices than bell, were quick to bring upstream bonding when bell started higher upload and the list goes on! My opinion is that unlimited on rogers is here to stay as long as bell keeps it for their retail. This march 31 deadline will probably be extended if bell does not remove its offer; rogers will never ever offer worst services than bell, we already know that.

Also speaking of higher upload, I find it very disturbing how rogers has simply set it to a max of 10mbps just to be on par with bell. My own experience has shown that 20mbps upload is VERY achievable on rogers this very moment without any further upgrades, even during peak hours (contradictory to what others said during upgrade era last year) but rogers won't increase its upload speed further until bell increases their upload.

Point is that as long as bell has unlimited, rogers will too; rogers will either beat bell or be on par with bell, but never will rogers be worst then bell!

So this idea that rogers will slam the door on the people that got the unlimited deal has absolutely no evidence to support it, all the evidence is against this very idea because bell has shown zero indication of removing its unlimited offer thus roger cannot remove it for their retail.

Now if bell did give some indication that they will remove the unlimited then one could argue that rogers will do the same, but its very unlikely now because GAS rates for bell were cut it half and so indies will offer even lower priced unlimited DSL and thus bell has to keep unlimited and therefore rogers will too. You see all this is interconnected.

I believe there was an article that suggested the only reason Bell & Rogers offered unlimited to begin with was a misguided fear of the recent CRTC decision. Now that it's over with, unlimited will be unavailable to add after the limited time period and I don't think we'll ever see it again. I'd also exppect to see it cancelled under the guise of being a "special promotion" in a year or so.

I wouldn't be quick to dismiss the unlimited offer. Since Bell's wholesale rate is now the lowest they may feel the pressure to keep their unlimited tier which would also force Rogers to keep their equivalent unlimited tier.

Firber 15/25/50 are all 10 Mb up. Rogers express is 2, extreme is 3 and extreme plus is 4. Not 10.

He is referring to ultimate, which is 10!

ultimate who? how many people are insane enough to pay for it, 1-2% of the total client base? the only bell's offer that is comparable is the fiber 175 - 175 up and 175 down. Unlimited for 10 will not save rogers. if they don't increase upload speeds for money-making tiers such as express and extreme - they will see the floodgate open. and yes I have express

I have ultimate, but I don't pay full price. I pay $49.99 plus tax, per month. I get 50% off, plus free modem. I don't have a single service that I pay Rogers anywhere near full price for.

Maybe for you, upload is an issue, but I doubt for the vast majority it is. If it comes down to speed, and I have to choose, I will take download over upload anyday.

Considering Bell's best offering right now for my area is 25/10, with 100 gigs of usage to my current 75/2 and 250 gigs, I am not even remotely thinking about switching to them. Add into that, at peak times in my house, internet bandwidth can easily hit 20-30Mbps, constantly for several hours. No thanks, my network cannot take a 1/3rd of the speed.

I seriously doubt your floodgates comment. If upload was that important, it would have already happened, and lets be honest, the vast majority of broadband users are clueless to how the internet works, or why. The just expect it to deliver their youtube cat videos quickly.

With 50% discount ultimate will be 61 + tax... so either you're getting some other discounts or your math is a bit off Besides, rogers no longer does contracts, so your 2 year commitment will have to be renewed with 30% off max (no contract). And 50% discount is no longer in the system. And that is very bad. No longer leveraging them with commitment -- sucks. They can't lock you in, but you cant push them that much anymore.

As of upload - yes DL is important, but 10 up is really the lowest that should be offered by any provider.

I'm insane enough to pay for ultimate... I'm one of the many where the fastest Bell speeds I can get is 5MBdown/1MBdown. Pretty useless.

Regular charges
Dec 09 - Jan 08 Usage Charge(1415GB@$0.50/GB) $707.50
Savings: $100 Maximum Usage Charge Adj $-607.50
Jan 09 - Feb 08 Hi-Speed Ultimate $122.99
Savings: 25% Off Internet 24 Mths $-30.75
Enhanced Home Gateway Rental $7.00
Savings: 25% Off Internet 24 Mths $-1.75

How are you all getting no modem rental fee and no contract? I signed up for ultimate about 3 months ago and the best I could do was 25% off on a 2-year contract. I have no other services with rogers at this location.

Well, with the migration to Cloud Storage and working from a home office, upload speed would be a critical cost/time factor to facilitate this growing trend.

Rogers lopsided asymetrical speeds are a hindrance/annoyance to anyone who uploads and contributes to the web on a regular basis.

I agree with you on that, put it is as you said, a growing trend, which I am sure Rogers will eventually increase. Look how long it took them to give 10Mbps up. At my old address, so close to two years ago, I was in the beta group for 7Mbps. I call it a beta, but that is lose, as most people in my old area never knew they had it, unless they found out about it by accident using a speed test site. I do know that they were messing around with stuff back then. On two occasions we received calls from techs wanting to replace a modem on one, and check (ended up replacing a coax line) our residence on another. these were out of the blue calls, no issues reported to Rogers etc. Other neighbours reported the same sort of thing.

I am on the 75/2 which is $99.99, minus 50%, plus a $7.00 charge then a $7.00 credit for my modem. My math is fine, but thanks

Further, I am not on any two year commitment, and never have been. I have also received the 50% for many years, without issue, even when others have told me there is no code in the system. YMMV

how did u get this deal?