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nicking pits

@videotron.ca
reply to vulture33

Re: HI anyone heard of this isp?

said by vulture33:

Thks makes sense I will hold off on all my decisions for a week, I was reading from my current isp that 6meg lines with the new ruling for them they will up the line to 10 if your neighborhood can take fttn.

*if* is the operative word.

Also, and I could be mistaken here, but don't think I am, I don't think they can just "up" the speed just like that. When going from legacy to the other tier this would require a tech visit with about a 95$ fee attached to it, plus it may require you to buy a new modem.

So I don't think it will happen just like that. But i'll let someone more knowledgeable on DSL to answer this or confirm this.

So right now, don't believe everything you are reading unless someone confirms all fee's are waived in writing.


Guspaz
Guspaz
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Montreal, QC
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reply to pitting nick

said by pitting nick :

said by Guspaz:

The price of the 6meg DSL services is not going to change. That service is not related to the recent CRTC stuff, and the tariffs for that (called "legacy GAS") are the same as before.

Capacity (usage) costs dropped over 50% for dsl.

Costs should drop. Period. If it doesn't then ISP's are offloading some costs to the crappy "up to" slow-ass 6-meg service, which isn't right. It sucks enough as it is.

I don't see how "up to" legacy 6-meg can continue to be sold at 43$ when capacity rates dropped over 50%.

Or are you telling us here that capacity used is different between legacy DSL versus FTTN/VDSL/Fibe capacity in the CRTC's ruling for DSL?

The legacy GAS service (6 meg ADSL) is not subject to usage costs, so it should not see a price reduction due to lower CBB costs...

Why should a reduction in a cost that doesn't apply to the service cause a reduction in price of that service? Legacy GAS costs the same today that it did before CBB charges were implemented in the first place, so the price will most likely remain unchanged.
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Acanac Inc
Premium
join:2007-03-05
Mississauga, ON

4 edits

said by Guspaz:

said by pitting nick :

said by Guspaz:

The price of the 6meg DSL services is not going to change. That service is not related to the recent CRTC stuff, and the tariffs for that (called "legacy GAS") are the same as before.

Capacity (usage) costs dropped over 50% for dsl.

Costs should drop. Period. If it doesn't then ISP's are offloading some costs to the crappy "up to" slow-ass 6-meg service, which isn't right. It sucks enough as it is.

I don't see how "up to" legacy 6-meg can continue to be sold at 43$ when capacity rates dropped over 50%.

Or are you telling us here that capacity used is different between legacy DSL versus FTTN/VDSL/Fibe capacity in the CRTC's ruling for DSL?

The legacy GAS service (6 meg ADSL) is not subject to usage costs, so it should not see a price reduction due to lower CBB costs...

Why should a reduction in a cost that doesn't apply to the service cause a reduction in price of that service? Legacy GAS costs the same today that it did before CBB charges were implemented in the first place, so the price will most likely remain unchanged.

The 6Mbps has always been subject to CBB. Maybe your confusing it with the business service. If not then we have been paying over $500K a month to Bell as a goodwill gesture.

levesque739

join:2008-05-13
Laval, QC
reply to nicking pits

Acanac announced that they will be doing upgrades to the speed of their DSL packages in the next few months. It was require a tech visit.

»community.acanac.com/acanac/view···start=60



nipping piks

@videotron.ca
reply to Acanac Inc

said by Acanac Inc:

Who said that the 6Mbps service was never subject to CBB? The 6Mbps has always been subject to CBB. Maybe your confusing it with the business service.

*phew*
glad you piped up.
I was going to subject myself to mental abuse by going though and pasting a couple of years worth of CRTC rulings and asking him what magic hat he pulled his comments out of.

It always was and has been subject to CBB.

You saved me from turning into a drooling zombie today. Bets are off for tomorrow though

Anyhow, rates have to drop. If they don't for certain ISP's then those certain ISP's are pulling one on the people who buy their services and the people will just move else-where.


Guspaz
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reply to Acanac Inc

Ah, you're right:

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2011/2011-703.htm

Paragraphs 64-72 cover this. The rates for the legacy access rate (per line) that they use in that decision are the flat-rate component from the UBB decision:

»www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2010/2010-255.htm

In the appendix.


vulture33

join:2013-02-23
Hawkesbury, ON
reply to vulture33

So maybe a decrease on 6mbps line ...



pit nicks

@videotron.ca

said by vulture33:

So maybe a decrease on 6mbps line ...

The unlimited service cost as a whole (your monthly bill) will go down.

vulture33

join:2013-02-23
Hawkesbury, ON

Hi anyone heard of Zid internet any good ,other things to say Thks



Guspaz
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reply to vulture33

Last we looked at ZiD they were reselling Colba. No clue who they're reselling now.
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vulture33

join:2013-02-23
Hawkesbury, ON
reply to vulture33

Any good though?


vulture33

join:2013-02-23
Hawkesbury, ON

So are Zid any good ,anyone pls.



Guspaz
Guspaz
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Montreal, QC
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reply to vulture33

They seem to be overpriced. It's not a fair comparison, because TekSavvy's DSL rates are expected to go down later today, but as of this moment:

15 meg wet-loop DSL with 300GB cap:
TekSavvy: $45.99
Zid: $54.95

25 meg wet-loop DSL with 300GB cap:
TekSavvy: $60.99
Zid: $69.95

The same seems true for the faster cable service, where TSI is much cheaper. It looks like Zid wins out at the old-school speeds, although TSI's new prices for DSL may change that.
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vulture33

join:2013-02-23
Hawkesbury, ON
reply to vulture33

Thks I will still be on the old school speeds my line for now cannot take more than 7 I have been told and in my area fibre tv and internet may be up to 2 year wait. So I was looking for the 6 meg line.Thks