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antdude
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Firefox Will Soon Block Third-Party Cookies

»yro.slashdot.org/story/13/02/23/···-cookies

"Stanford researcher Jonathan Mayer has contributed a Firefox patch that will block third-party cookies by default. It's now on track to land in version 22. Kudos to Mozilla for protecting their users and being so open to community submissions. The initial response from the online advertising industry is unsurprisingly hostile and blustering, calling the move 'a nuclear first strike.'"
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Well, why do these advertisers think I want their cookies. Fact is, it's MY computer and I have the say of what is on it. One of the first things I do on any computer is disable 3rd party cookies in browsers. So...


siljaline
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Mele20
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Everybody is a hypocrite here...both Mozilla and the advertisers.

Mozilla ALWAYS blocked 3rd party cookies BY DEFAULT through version 1.5. It was with ver 2 that a lot of disturbing violations of user privacy were introduced into Fx. We had a long discussion about it in the Mozilla software forum at the time. The privacy violations were a main reason I remained with Fx 1.5 until Fx 4 was released.

I don't recall advertisers being in an uproar when Mozilla was blocking third party cookies by default up to Fx 2 so why should they get all upset now? Mozilla is just finally, in this regard, taking Fx back to its original purpose and tacitly acknowledging that they should never have given into the advertisers in Fx 2.
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siljaline
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Whenever I "upgrade" to a new build of FX, I have to opt-out of third-party cookies.
That may be due to the settings I choose to run.



Dude111
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I think most any browser you can block 3rd party cookies cant ya??

I have used FF 1.5 (and also 3.6) and i have been able to on both those.... I know on IE6+ you can (I dont know about any others but they should all let ya)

Mele20
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Re: Firefox Will Soon Block Third-Party Cookies

No, it is not because of your settings. DEFAULT since x 2.0 has been to ACCEPT third party cookies. It was a sad day when Mozilla departed from their stance in Fx 1.5 and earlier which defaulted to block third party cookies. At least finally, Mozilla is going back to its roots on this issue.
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Re:  

said by Dude111:

I think most any browser you can block 3rd party cookies cant ya??

Yes, you can block them in probably all browsers. But that is not the point. The point is that the AVERAGE user will accept whatever the defaults are for most everything. They don't know how to make changes and would be scared to try afraid they might "break" the internet or something. So, it was a big deal among privacy experts when Mozilla decided to stop blocking third party cookies by default and moved to accepting them by default in version 2. Safari has ALWAYS blocked third party cookies by default. The rest of their handling of cookies is very crude but they did always block 3rd party ones by default and are are to be commended for that.
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Dude111
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Yel Mele i imagine it was a concern!!!!

I manually put my 3rd party cookies on BLOCK several years ago......


siljaline
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You put your cookies on the block ? How much did they sell for (•)


siljaline
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Re: Firefox Will Soon Block Third-Party Cookies

Since I'm a relative Moz N00b, Mele20 See Profile, I'm not quite in a position to comment on how far boack FX has been this way.


Mele20
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Yes, I noticed you are using Fx these days...nice! Welcome.


siljaline
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Thanks, Mele20 See Profile


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quote:
It would appear that Mozilla is going the Safari route to block third party cookies by default. It's also been suggested that users clear all cookies before installing that version which is a bit controversial.

More on the subject here: The New Firefox Cookie Policy

quote:
The post isn't entirely accurate, only 3rd-party cookies (coming from websites other than the website which you are currently visiting, frequently tracking sites, but also content sites for images, etc.) from websites which you haven't been actively visiting before are blocked.

For example, if Facebook wants to set a cookie for a "Like" button in another web page, it initially wouldn't be allowed to do so. But, if you go to the primary Facebook website to view some stuff, thus acquiring some permitted cookies from that visit, subsequent return visits to the other site would now allow the "Like" button to use the 3rd-party cookies as there has been a permitted "visit" of that site before. From the user-tracking point of view this leaves some loopholes, but it's better than the previous default which just blindly allowed the 3rd-party cookies, thus supporting tracking.

This breaks the Privacy & Security > Cookies preference pane on trunk, I've filed bug 845353 on that.

»forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic···=2668457

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reply to siljaline
siljaline, thanks for that tip.

I slipped into assuming that, because I had cleared the "Accept third-party cookies" at one point, the choice would be preserved across future upgrades. It's disappointing that Firefox would overrule that choice.


siljaline
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Your welcome, always look at those settings after every upgrade.


antdude
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said by siljaline:

Your welcome, always look at those settings after every upgrade.

His/Her welcome?


siljaline
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Not forgetting I speak French a good part of the day, living where I do and all that Jazz, you're