| Well now people have a legal out... They've read the material, spent 35 to protest their innocence (open router, etc), and thus when the MPAA / RIAA try to sue, have a ground to argue they didn't know until informed.
I highly doubt any ISPS are going to cut the cord. They aren't about losing money. |
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 elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | Mediacom already does after 3 DMCA letters not even proof you did any thing JUST the letters
TOTALLY couldnt abuse that get some one kicked off nope not at all... |
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Saying you have an open router will very possible just result in a loss of $35. They don't care. They are tracking strikes by account, not person. |
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| Yes, but you've spent 35 dollars to profess innocence. ISP "exonerates you", and the MPAA / RIAA have now lost grounds to sue I'm guessing. After all, open router, hacked, etc, the ISP buys your excuse for the "fee".
If taken to court, bring said I was found innocent due to X reason. 35 dollars is a lot cheaper than the 1000's a lawyer costs to make the same case. |
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Quite honestly, I know 1 person who got their connection cut under Mediacom's 3 strikes. And they were completely guilty. I don't know of any instances of false strikes and I know of a lot of people with Mediacom. Most people don't even know it exists. That's how transparent it is. It took Torrentfreak years to figure it out. |
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO | a DMCA letter is not proof of guilt
its not proof of any thing really |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to jc100
said by jc100:They've read the material, spent 35 to protest their innocence (open router, etc), and thus when the MPAA / RIAA try to sue, have a ground to argue they didn't know until informed.
I highly doubt any ISPS are going to cut the cord. They aren't about losing money.
If you leave your router open you kind of deserve to get your internet cut off. Anyone spending $35 to protest is an idiot. It's called 6 strikes and then NOTHING happens so why bother spending $35? And I'll be $1,000,000 not one single innocent person gets flagged 6 times in a row. EVER. WILL NOT HAPPEN. |
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But the whole point of the 6 strikes is to cut down on lawsuits. The RIAA has supposedly agreed not to sue customers of participating ISPs, although we will have to see for sure. |
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said by BF69:And I'll be $1,000,000 not one single innocent person gets flagged 6 times in a row. EVER. WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Nothing can go wrong ...
»www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEHniGifKyE
Murphy will see your million, and raise you another million! 
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said by elios:a DMCA letter is not proof of guilt
its not proof of any thing really
especially seeing as the courts have said an IP does not equal a person, and the companies that track these torrents and P2P networks are using very unreliable information that can no longer even be submitted to most courts. |
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said by jc100:If taken to court, bring said I was found innocent due to X reason. 35 dollars is a lot cheaper than the 1000's a lawyer costs to make the same case.
if you win, they pay your lawyers fees, and other things like time off required or damages to reputation and such. The MPAA, or anyone related will not sue anyone anymore because one simply has to file bankruptcy to get out of any judgement against you, and for that matter, they just wasted hours of time on a case to not get paid anything, which would be fine with me. |
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join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | reply to silbaco
said by silbaco:Quite honestly, I know 1 person who got their connection cut under Mediacom's 3 strikes. And they were completely guilty. I don't know of any instances of false strikes and I know of a lot of people with Mediacom.
Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.
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NormanSPremium,MVM
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| said by Linklist:Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.
I like your linr of reasoning!
Hyperbolically speaking: "It is better that ten innocent men hang than that one guilty man goes free."
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LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | said by NormanS:said by Linklist:Probably 99.99% of those caught are guilty. All the angst over copyright infringement is coming from those too cheap to pay for their music & movies.
I like your linr of reasoning! Hyperbolically speaking: "It is better that ten innocent men hang than that one guilty man goes free." 6 strikes is a game of statistics, just like the criminal justice system is. Sometimes an innocent is caught up in it. C'est la vie.
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Open router = Open Excuse. Sure, they can sue you for tens of millions and no they won't get far. However, they can put a lean on your house, garnish wages, etc. They might not see your life savings wiped, but they can definitely bankrupt you. Even if you file bankruptcy, creditors now have to agree to dissolve debt. Bankruptcy under Bush changed. It's no longer the carte blance (blank check) to walking away free and clear. |
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said by Linklist:6 strikes is a game of statistics, just like the criminal justice system is. Sometimes an innocent is caught up in it. C'est la vie.
It should not be; especially not the criminal justice system. "Six Strikes" is a rigged game of statistics; rigged in favor of the MAFIAA.
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join:2011-08-11
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Great movie.  . Maybe I will watch that tonight. |
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What about all those who watch TV shows and miss an episode or have to work during it's airing? |
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LinklistPremium
join:2002-03-03
Longport, NJ
kudos:5 | said by Jawz :What about all those who watch TV shows and miss an episode or have to work during it's airing?
DVR, OnDemand, network web site, buy it later from Amazon or iTunes, or god forbid just miss that episode.
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I'm not too cheap to pay for movies and music. I'm too cheap to settle for shit. For example itunes is lame...if I want to BUY an album or Record I want that shit on Vinyl with warm Analog sound and cover art that can be appreciated. Secondly not every album or movie can be found these days, and that applies to major providers online as well. Secondly I pay for Netflix, Cable TV, and Internet that's already a lot of income going towards entertainment. Not to mention I still go to movies, live musical performances, etc. Should I really have to pay for an album or movie I've seen or heard plenty of times? And that I've previously paid for? The majority of the money I would be spending anyways would most likely go to a major movie company like Viacom so they can crunch numbers and make another shitty adam sandler movie for a quick buck, without ever caring about the material. And whats the point of going to see a movie in theaters anymore? There are 20 minutes of fucking advertisements before the movie starts, same with television, on average 14 to 16 minutes of every hour is more advertisements for products no one wants. And now get on youtube and more of OUR time is wasted on more pointless products. All of this can be avoided...and it involves NOT buying this shit. That's not to say don't support good "artists" making great pieces of art. The United States is already too consumer driven, and the movie industry has continually set records at the Box office year after year. You should consider that this issue isn't about a bunch of people wanting shit for free, but demanding a better service, innovative technology, freedom of culture, and information. |
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