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TechnoGeek

join:2013-01-07
reply to MxxCon

Re: [OOL] CV is not Watching You

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MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
reply to cOOLguy

Re: [OOL] CV is Watching You New Anti-Piracy System Online

Yes, I can see that happening. Does not seem that difficult to do from a technology point of view.
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cOOLguy

join:2009-09-10
Torrington, CT
Yes, there is very effective system now on the usenet servers which are subject to the DMCA. The automated take down process removes posts in a matter of hours if not minutes.

max pl

join:2009-03-22
Hyde Park, NY
reply to magaman


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
reply to limegrass69
There are 3 types of individuals involved with this subject: 1. People who like to torrent/P2P and get said movies/music/shows free and would've never paid for them anyway. 2. People who torrent/P2P because the networks/companies that have their shows don't offer a legal ad free inexpensive alternative to getting them or don't offer them at all. 3. Torrenting/P2Ping shows/movies/music out of convenience while they would easily pay for it through any means.

Numbers 2 and 3 can easily be rectified if the content companies and the MPAA/MIAA offered such that aren't expensive and are easy to access. Number 1 are most likely using VPNs through a foreign country that doesn't log any information so it's pretty useless to go after them anyway while it's possible 2 is and 3 the least likely.

Instead of these industries fully adapting, they're causing this situation themselves. On the other hand I doubt they'll ever be enough profit for them regardless of what happens.


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ

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reply to max pl
For people who live in Cablevision's territory with actual broadband competition (Fios), they can call them up and let them know why they're switching to protest them in participating in this 6 strikes scheme to begin with. Others have complained outright at which point Cablevision and others ISPs who lose enough subscribers and/or get enough grief will back down from this. I don't see this 6 strikes scheme not lasting longer than 2-3 years as a result.


MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
Except Verizon, Time Warner and Comcast are also participating in this scam. So there's no much to protest with.
This is what is what's known as Collusion.
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kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
I know what the definition of Collusion is. It seems like overseas VPN is the only answer then since the Copyright system has been horribly broken for a long time now.

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
kudos:3
Other alternatives would include not downloading (who are we kidding? probably just uploading if this is anything like most cases) pirated media.


MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
said by frdrizzt:

Other alternatives would include not downloading (who are we kidding? probably just uploading if this is anything like most cases) pirated media.

Actually it is illegal to upload, aka distribute copyrighted content, not download it.
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kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
Precisely. I think that basic concept gets lost when discussing this subject.


kickass69

join:2002-06-03
Lake Hopatcong, NJ
reply to frdrizzt
I've stated the reasons above for why and how to remedy it. Most people prefer to get their media through legal means if it's cost effective and gives them a way to watch it on whatever device they want. When content providers tighten their iron grip and remove options, people will end up resorting to piracy vs going without.

frdrizzt

join:2008-05-03
Ronkonkoma, NY
kudos:3
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I'm not trying to fix a problem with copyright law, but stating that using a VPN is not the only way to get by on 6 strixes. Also, it's legal to DL copyright music in Canada, not the US. It is harder to catch the DL which is why they go after the uploaders.

edit: This obviously ignores fair-use cases.

Chaz70

join:2002-09-24
Middlesex, NJ
reply to magaman
What about the use of usenet servers (newsgroups) and a SSL connection(s) with those servers? Is that "safe" from being detected?
I know a few people who use this type of configuration and often wondered this!


MxxCon

join:1999-11-19
Brooklyn, NY
six strikes does not apply to newsgroups.
that doesn't mean they are not taking other measures.
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