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StuartMW
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Re: IE reborn: Internet Explorer 10 arrives on Windows 7

I thought IE10 came with a pre-installed version of Adobe Flash? I looked in "Manage Add-on's" but it isn't listed. Also when I go to Adobe's Flash test page it shows I have this (which I did install today).

»Update:Adobe Flash Player..11.6.602.171.Feb.26/13

Is the pre-installed Flash only for Win8?
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Dustyn
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said by StuartMW:

I thought IE10 came with a pre-installed version of Adobe Flash? I looked in "Manage Add-on's" but it isn't listed. Also when I go to Adobe's Flash test page it shows I have this (which I did install today).

»Update:Adobe Flash Player..11.6.602.171.Feb.26/13

Is the pre-installed Flash only for Win8?

I believe it's for Windows 8 only. I like it that way as I don't want 3rd party content baked into my browser then having to rely on Microsoft to update it. I think I recall initially Adobe releasing updates to their vulnerable Flash player faster for other browsers vs IE10 on Windows 8 as we had to wait for Microsoft. Hopefully this is not the case with IE10 on Windows 7.
»arstechnica.com/information-tech···ndows-7/


StuartMW
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said by Dustyn:

I believe it's for Windows 8 only. I like it that way...

I do too. I'd just heard it was baked-in.
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joako
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reply to Name Game

Is it still slow?
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gugarci
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How to you get IE10. Is it available through WU, or do you have to updated manually through this link?
»windows.microsoft.com/en-us/inte···anguages



siljaline
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reply to joako

No, was it ever ?



siljaline
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reply to StuartMW

Flash is baked into Win 8 »technet.microsoft.com/security/a···/2755801


Mele20
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reply to StuartMW

Do me a favor (if you don't mind experimenting a bit). In IE Internet Options/Advanced tab under Security check "Enable Enhanced Protected Mode" and restart IE (reboot for good measure instead of just restarting IE).

Then use Process Explorer and open several tabs in IE and let me know if the tabs are running as 32bit or 64bit. Or, you can try to install Bing Bar after enabling EPM. If IE 10 is now running in full 64bit (which is what enabling EPM should do as that sandboxes the tabs) you should not be able to install Bing Bar as it requires 32bit tabs. (Bing Bar is easy to uninstall).

On my Win 8 Pro machine, even with EPM enabled, Process Explorer shows the tabs still running as 32bit and I can install Bing Bar which should be impossible with EPM enabled. I posted in Microsoft's own help forum about it and a Microsoft engineer told me the question should be posted at TechNet forums instead. I have done that last night...no replies yet. I am very curious to know if on Win 7 IE 10 can be run in FULL 64 bit mode or does it end up hybrid mode like it does for me on Win 8? (Others have posted in Microsoft's own forum that they also cannot get IE 10 to run as full 64bit on Win 8).
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StuartMW
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There's no "Advanced tab under Security" but "Enable Protected Mode" was already enabled.

I opened IE 64-bit and created 4 tabs in addition to the main page. Process Explorer showed the main IE process as 64-bit but child processes as 32-bit.

I didn't install "Bing Bar" but I don't think that matters.
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StuwartMW,

I think Mele20 is asking about this.


StuartMW
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Ahhh ok, thanks. I've ticked it but don't want to reboot and try again right now.
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gugarci
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Just installed it and I must admit I like it. Although it froze while importing my Firefox bookmarks and had to close it out using the task manager. How can you tell if it installed the 32 or 64 bit version? It does not mention this info under "about Internet Explorer".
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said by gugarci:

How can you tell if it installed the 32 or 64 bit version? It does not mention this info under "about Internet Explorer".

Look in the program files folder and the program files86 folder.


gugarci
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reply to Name Game

I have IE10 installed in the program folder and also in the program x86 folder. Does that mean I'm using the 64 bit version?



siljaline
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DNT was not turned on by default. fwiw...



chachazz
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said by Smokey Bear:

Reminder: in IE10 Do Not Track is turned on by default.

said by siljaline:

DNT was not turned on by default. fwiw...

"In keeping with our commitment on prioritizing the privacy of our customers,
the Do Not Track (DNT) signal is turned on in IE10 for Windows 7."
»blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2013···ted=true


siljaline
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Yep, read that, I've been waiting for this for a good while.
Save a few tweaks, I have IE 10 essentially installed the way I like it and DNT was not turned off deliberately. My Bad


Name Game
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said by gugarci:

Just installed it and I must admit I like it. Although it froze while importing my Firefox bookmarks and had to close it out using the task manager. How can you tell if it installed the 32 or 64 bit version? It does not mention this info under "about Internet Explorer".

Download Internet Explorer 10
You can download Internet Explorer 10 in the language that matches your version of Windows or choose the English version, which works with all versions of Windows 7.

»windows.microsoft.com/en-us/inte···anguages
If you need help finding out which version of Windows you're running, see Is my PC running the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows?

»windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind···r-64-bit
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Dustyn
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So far I reeeealy like it. To me it looks and feels like a highly polished IE9!
EDIT: The built in spell checker is cool. Purposely mistyping a few wrong words with extra or not enough letters and IE10 corrects it on the fly! Others are simply underlined for review. Very nice!


BlitzenZeus
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Ever heard of auto-correct fail? It's a common problem on smartphones, but you should able to turn that off. I've found many dictionaries are missing words spelled correctly, or terminology in many fields. This can lead to embarrassing situations if you don't proofread every message.
»www.autocorrectfail.org/
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DarkSithPro

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I wonder how many people wouldn't use Internet Explorer just because it's an evil Microsoft product? Even it it renders pages faster than the others due to GPU acceleration and has a better sandbox than Chrome? In terms of sandbox/protected mode is it more secure than the pwn2own champ "Chrome"?


OZO
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Many don't use the latest IE because of the dumb m$'s policy where they artificially limit it for using with only few latest Windows OS's (W8, and now W7). I think m$ shoots itself in the foot by eliminating by their own will a lot of potential users...
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reply to Name Game

Slightly OT, but have any tests been done to see how secure IE 10, maybe a comparison to Chrome?
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Mele20
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I was in a hurry when I posted and was not very clear...sorry. I meant go to Advanced Tab (not Security Tab). On the Advanced Tab under the Security SECTION enable EPM. Then open some tabs in IE Internet zone and check Process Explorer.

It is all explained in this rather lengthy blog:

»blogs.msdn.com/b/ieinternals/arc···top.aspx

But I had missed this:

"In the upcoming Internet Explorer 10 on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008R2, the only thing that enabling Enhanced Protected Mode does is turn on 64bit Content Processes. But, when running on Windows 8, the EPM option provides even more security by also causing the sandboxed Content Process to run in a new process isolation feature called “AppContainer.”

So, you still won't have tabs running in App Container and I want to know why tabs appear to be running outside App container even though I turned on EPM. They don't appear to be even running at 64bit much less in the App container.
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There will be a security comparison soon enough, like in about a week

quote:
HP ZDI is offering more than half a million dollars (USD) in cash and prizes during the competition for vulnerabilities and exploitation techniques in the below categories. The first contestant to successfully compromise a selected target will win the prizes for the category.
•Web Browser
Google Chrome on Windows 7 ($100,000)
Microsoft Internet Explorer, either
IE 10 on Windows 8 ($100,000), or
IE 9 on Windows 7 ($75,000)
Mozilla Firefox on Windows 7 ($60,000)
Apple Safari on OS X Mountain Lion ($65,000)
•Web Browser Plug-ins using Internet Explorer 9 on Windows 7
Adobe Reader XI ($70,000)
Adobe Flash ($70,000)

»dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/201···own-2013

Should be fun as always.
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gugarci
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said by Name Game:

said by gugarci:

Just installed it and I must admit I like it. Although it froze while importing my Firefox bookmarks and had to close it out using the task manager. How can you tell if it installed the 32 or 64 bit version? It does not mention this info under "about Internet Explorer".

Download Internet Explorer 10
You can download Internet Explorer 10 in the language that matches your version of Windows or choose the English version, which works with all versions of Windows 7.

»windows.microsoft.com/en-us/inte···anguages
If you need help finding out which version of Windows you're running, see Is my PC running the 32-bit or 64-bit version of Windows?

»windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind···r-64-bit

Thanks for the reply. I'm using x64 but and I downloaded the x64 bit installer. But since i don't use IE at all i just wanted to make sure.
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StuartMW
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But I had missed this:

So you don't need me to re-run your experiment?

I probably won't get around to it until later today anyway.


Just rebooted and now all IE child processes (tabs) are 64-bit and NOT 32-bit.
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HarryH3
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Just how bloated is the code for this? (Or how deep does it hook into the system?) Upon reboot, I got the "Please wait. Updating Windows" screen for quite a while during shutdown and again during startup. It took almost as long as the ridiculous .Net updates.



StuartMW
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said by gugarci:

I have IE10 installed in the program folder and also in the program x86 folder.

C:\Program Files\          <= 64-bit software
 
C:\Program Files(x86)\   <= 32-bit software
 
Just create you're own shortcuts if they don't exist.

The x64 installer installs both versions.

»Re: IE reborn: Internet Explorer 10 arrives on Windows 7
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Name Game
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I plan to install it on one of my win7 64bit laptops that I use when traveling..glad they put this one out for that OS..never did like IE9 that well. Acted funny on too many sites. Kudos to Microsoft.