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irontoes
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irontoes

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Building two low-end gaming PCs, ideas very welcome

My kids are starting to complain about their PCs. I don't blame them as they do play on 6 year old Dells. I did some newegging and came up with what I thought was ok, but would like to hear from you guys. I plan to use their old hard drives and video cards (for now), as they were upgraded in the last year. Anyway, everything below is x2. I look forward to hearing about any changes or ideas.

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ASRock Z77 Pro4 - Comes with 8GB of free ram (Corsair). »www.newegg.com/Product/P ··· 13157296

Intel i3-3220 - 13 bucks off with a code »www.newegg.com/Product/P ··· 19116775

A Rosewill case »www.newegg.com/Product/P ··· 11147023

ThermalMax PS »www.newegg.com/Product/P ··· 17152028

Two copies of Win 7 OEM - $200 - They are starting to run into compatibility issues with some games and/or programs requiring Win 7. $99 bucks each seems steep, I've seen cheaper online but from places I never heard of.

Total price with discounts: $808 shipped

Krisnatharok
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What video cards are you using?

Keep in mind many discounts and MIRs are "1 per household."

irontoes
join:2000-03-18
Phoenix, AZ

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At the moment they have a nvidia 460 and a 550. I realize it won't be great, but the idea I go with for the kids PCs is small cheap upgrades every so often.

I usually discount the mail in discounts I mean I've had success with EVGA ones twice, even though it took months to show up. The other discounts I have are straight up Newegg instant ones (66 bucks total).

Raible
join:2008-01-23
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Your motherboard/CPU combo is a solid choice. I'm not a fan of the PSUs, but that's easy to say when I don't have to buy two of them.

irontoes
join:2000-03-18
Phoenix, AZ

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I am not either, but the price is good for me.

Found a cheaper Win7 64-bit for $65 @softwarespeedy.com. They are listed on Microsofts partners website.

Phantasee
join:2009-08-27
Hammond, LA

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Looks fine. Not sure I'd want those PSUs
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»www.newegg.com/Product/P ··· 17139027

I'd get these Corsairs before the Raidmax.

irontoes
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I like that, thanks.

Phantasee
join:2009-08-27
Hammond, LA

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Also better than RAIDmax most likely from what I've seen explode in the past. I've had a Cooler Master in a Dell that lasted a long time. Never trusted Raidmax.
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Brands I've never had fail are:
Cooler Master
OCZ
Thermaltake
Ultra
I've had ONE Corsair fail but it was a GS series which is trash tier.

RAIDmax has died on me. Antec has died (killed HDD). Rosewill has died on me. Had 2 Apevia DOA, never got to even try them.

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said by Phantasee:

Brands I've never had fail are:
Cooler Master
OCZ
Thermaltake
Ultra
I've had ONE Corsair fail but it was a GS series which is trash tier.

RAIDmax has died on me. Antec has died (killed HDD). Rosewill has died on me. Had 2 Apevia DOA, never got to even try them.

It's important to note that brand bias is a bad way to go when looking at products.

That's like someone saying "Well I'm only going to buy a kia because one never failed on me!" (with a horrible track record across all averages).

You also have to take into consideration the product lines. For example, Rosewill's HIVE series is considered one of the best on the market, whereas their basic line is garbage. Antec's are generally good as well, whereas the OCZ and Thermaltake have product lines to stay away from too.

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I have no "brand bias". I try an array of brands and stick with what works. And Kia makes decent cars these days with a good track record since Hyundai builds/owns Kia.

I provided input based on what worked for me in real world testing. Not articles and stats. Was by no means biased. Sorry if it came off that way.

Raible
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Much like a lot of things these days, the label on the product doesn't really let you know who actually built it. This is an excellent article if you have not read it before. Definitely gives some insight into the PSU brand argument.

»www.tomshardware.com/rev ··· 913.html

Phantasee
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Yea, saw that article. Good read. I've had no name brands last forever and more popular ones die or be DOA. You just never know.
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Here's the bottom line. If you are paying 40 dollars for anything over 700 watts. It's most likely Chinese trash. Unless it has some crazy rebate you MAY get back in 6 months.

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Good PSUs today are Corsair/Seasonic/PC Power & Cooling (I believe the OEM model in these three are generally the same thing), Rosewill (the rated models), Antec, Cougar, Kingwin (stick to the rated models).

Now all of these brands have lines I would stay away from, and I am sure there are other brands I didn't mention (EVGA, if for some reason you need a 1500w PSU) that make good PSUs as well.

Bottome line, don't let brand loyalty or the stray DOA sway you--go find a review on your model to know if you are getting something that is put together well or a piece of crap.

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join:2004-03-10
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Why not just go with an AMD apu and some good ram. The A10 can play games at low/medium out of the box.

Gordo74
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said by I_H8_Spam:

Why not just go with an AMD apu and some good ram. The A10 can play games at low/medium out of the box.

Because his 460 and 550 are much better.

Phantasee
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Hammond, LA

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Yup. The 460 still packs more GPU horsepower than the A10 can bring.

irontoes
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Thanks for the help guys. Ordered last Wednesday and most of it showed up Friday except the RAM and Win7 (from another vendor). Shipping was 10 bucks total, I was happy.

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said by Phantasee:

I've had ONE Corsair fail but it was a GS series which is trash tier.

I've been running a GS700 for well over 1 year now. Running overclocked hardware also. GS series are 80+ bronze certified just like most other Corsair models. Not something I'd consider "trash tier".