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CXM_Splicer
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Re: It's only illegal if you're caught

Ummm, you are ignoring the possibility of domestic terrorism being caused by such totalitarian methods; much like our foreign policy is a source of international terrorism.

Necessary evil? Funny, I am sure that's exactly what the terrorists think too. I find it strange that so much of the behavior we used to criticize Communist Russia for (that would NEVER happen in a free country!) is now commonplace in the US.

Not only is this NOT necessary, it should not be accepted or tolerated.


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I'm not for domestic espionage any more than I am for Bloomie's dumbass large-sized soft drink ban, and it is instrusive. But the enemy does tend to camouflage itself to appear just like me and you. The digital age has made it easier.

I think my biggest gripe is that they're likely not monitoring the ones who need to be.


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said by Network Guy:

I'm not for domestic espionage any more than I am for Bloomie's dumbass large-sized soft drink ban, and it is instrusive. But the enemy does tend to camouflage itself to appear just like me and you. The digital age has made it easier.

Yeah, we have to lock up those stinking Jap spies! I mean we need to ferret out those damn commies! Wait, who are we spying now?

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We should be spying on the likes of Adam Lanza. We should stop being reactive... ie: stupid tighter gun controls that accomplish more harm than good because people are upset about a psycho with a gun... and become more preventive.


CXM_Splicer
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said by Network Guy:

We should be spying on the likes of Adam Lanza. We should stop being reactive... ie: stupid tighter gun controls that accomplish more harm than good because people are upset about a psycho with a gun... and become more preventive.

I don't think Lanza would have been helped by a surveillance state. The clues were already there, it was obvious that he had social problems. Do you think he was talking to people about his upcoming spree on his cellphone? Even if he was (and was caught) the system is for prosecution, not for psychological intervention. The system isn't used proactively at all, as a matter of fact, they simply go the database to obtain evidence to use against someone for whatever crime they are being charged with.

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Therein lies one of the problems. The judicial system has become more focused on warehousing accused criminals by the bulk, however petty the offense may be or if at all, than it is about addressing problems with real solutions.

It doesn't help at all that the NYPD seems to continually put badges on morons to supposedly keep the streets safe.