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ariez
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ariez

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[Speed Problem] what can it be?

about 2 months ago was having speed issues so the modem was replaced. modem, ethernet cable, phone cable, and dsl filter were replaced. looks like having speed issues with the new modem as well. doing a speedtest, it's averaging around 0.2 Mbps. turning the pc completely off and back on doesn't correct the issue. if the modem is unplugged and plugged back in, speeds average around 1.3 Mbps. unable to determine how long before the speed decreases dramatically as it's not my pc so I'm unable to do speedtest on a regular basis; I assume it's after a few hours. what can be causing the speed issue? the line has been tested about 2 months ago as ok; express (1.5Mbps) dsl line has been active and working fine for several years.

NormanS
I gave her time to steal my mind away
MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA

NormanS

MVM

When you have the best speed, check your modem statistics. When your speed is at its worst, check again. Save the results and post back to this topic.
ariez
join:2004-01-09
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ariez

Member

Motorola 3360

d/l speed testing at 0.18Mbps
(modem is in bridged mode)

Statistics
DSL Information
Line State Up
Modulation DMT
Data Path Fast

To Modem To Internet
Data Rate (kbps) 224 384
SNR Margin (dB) 18.5 22.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 46.0 31.0
Output power (dBm) 12.8 11.1
Loss of signal 0 0
Loss of frame 0 0
CRC Errors 11 1

ATM Information
VPI / VCI 0/35
In Octets 156780110
In Errors 0
In Unicast Packets 173192
In Non Unicast Packets 0
In Discard Packets 0

Out Octets 72310246
Out Errors 0
Out Unicast Packets 247749
Out Non Unicast Packets 0
Out Discard Packets 71

LAN Information
Modem IP Address 192.168.1.254
Modem Netmask 255.255.255.0

Devices on LAN
IP Address MAC Address Name Status
192.168.1.64 00:00:00:00:00:00 192.168.1.64 Active

======================================

30 Modem Health Status Ok
31 DSL Link Status UP
32 Time Since Last Sync 008 days 10:34:23
33 Loss of signal False
34 Loss of Framing False
35 ATM Cell Delineation True
36 Internet Status DOWN
37 Ethernet Link Status UP
38 PPP Connection Status Disconnected
39 PPP Last Connection Error No connection attempted
40 PPP Uptime

50 Test DSL Line Sync Pass
51 ATM Cell Delineation Pass
52 Test ATM Signal Pass
53 Test ATM OAM Segment Ping Pass
54 Test ATM OAM End-to-End Ping Pass
55 Test DSL Ethernet to ATM Pass
56 Test LAN Ethernet Connection Pass
57 Test Mac Bridge to LAN Ethernet Pass
60 Test PPPoE to Ethernet Skipped
61 Test PPP to PPPoE Pass
62 Test PPPoE Server Connect Skipped
63 Test PPPoE Server Session Skipped
65 Test IP to WAN Pass
66 Test IP to LAN Ethernet Skipped
68 Test IP to PPP Pass
69 Test Validate WAN IP Address Skipped
70 Test Gateway Ping Skipped
71 Test DNS Well Known Host Query Skipped
72 Test Primary DNS Ping Skipped
73 Test Secondary DNS Ping Skipped
74 Test Mail Srvr 1 Ping Skipped
75 Test Mail Srvr 2 Ping Skipped
76 Test News Srvr 1 Ping Skipped
77 Test News Srvr 2 Ping Skipped
78 Test Web Portal 1 Ping Skipped
79 Test Web Portal 2 Ping Skipped
80 Test PPPoE Connect to Gateway Skipped

90 Active VCs provisioned 1
91 DSLAM Vendor Id
92 DSL Line Mode DMT
93 DSL Training Mode Multimode
94 Conf VPI 0
95 Conf VCI 35
96 Conf PVC Search List 0/35, 8/35, 0/43, 0/51, 0/59, 8/43, 8/51, 8/59
97 VPI 0
98 VCI 35
99 VC Encapsulation LLC
100 DSL Line Type Fast
101 DSL Line Interleaved Depth 1

110 Default Device Enabled False
111 Default Device Mac Address 00:00:00:00:00:00
112 Default Device IP Address 192.168.1.64
113 Default Device Address Type Private
114 Service Provider Name
115 Service Provider Phone
116 Service Provider URL
117 Service Provider Help URL
118 Modem MAC Address
119 LAN DHCP Server Enabled False
120 DHCP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
121 DHCP Start IP Address 192.168.1.64
122 DHCP End IP Address 192.168.1.64
123 DHCP Default Gateway 192.168.1.254
124 DHCP Default Lease Time 001 days 00:00:00
125 Domain name
126 DHCP Leases Allocated 0
127 DHCP Leases Available 0

Rx Tx
140 Current Rate 224 384
141 Previous Rate 0 0
142 DSL Max Rate 364 480
144 Current ATTN DR 384 896
145 Current SNRM 18.5 22.0
146 Current LATN 46.0 31.0
147 Current SATN - -
148 Current TP 12.8 11.1

15 Min 24 Hour Yesterday
160 Time Elapsed 158 83944 83974
161 Chan Received Blks 9355 4938933 1765
162 Chan Transmitted Blks 9355 4938933 1765
163 Chan Corrected Blks 0 0 0
164 Chan Uncorrected Blks 0 0 0
165 HEC Vcnt - - -
166 HEC Tcnt - - -
167 HEC Ucnt 0 0 0
168 ICBE - - -
169 LCD 0 0 0
170 NCD 0 0 0
171 CVL 0 0 0
172 LCD Tx 0 0 0
173 NCD Tx 0 0 0
174 CVL Tx 0 0 0
175 LOF 0 0 0
176 LOS 0 0 0
177 LOSS - - -
178 LOL - - -
179 LPR - - -
180 ES 0 0 0
181 SESL 0 0 0
182 UASL 0 0 0
183 ECL 0 0 0
184 ECSL - - -
185 ECL Tx - - -
186 Inits - - -
187 FastR - - -
188 Failed FastR - - -
189 DSL Initialization Errors 0 0 0
190 DSL Initialization Timeouts 0 0 0
191 DSL Line Search Initializations - - -
192 DSL Loss of Margin Failures - - -
193 ISP Connection Establishment - - -

231 DSL Rate Mode -
232 Conf Target SNR Margin -

Oct Err PkU PkNU Disc
240 LAN IP Tx 29339336 0 219 91322 0
241 LAN IP Rx 1979478 0 216 6603 0
242 LAN Ethernet Tx 83240367 0 427905 6647 0
243 LAN Ethernet Rx 436568200 0 400472 91322 0
244 LAN PPPoE Rx - - - - -
245 IP 2684 Tx 0 0 0 0 0
246 IP 2684 Rx 0 0 0 0 0
247 Ethernet 2684 Tx
248 Ethernet 2684 Rx 159761656 0 176144 0 0

260 Ethernet Rate 100Mbps
261 Ethernet Duplex Full

270 Internet Connection Type Bridged
271 Modem Configuration Bridged
272 NAPT Enabled False
273 Modem IP Address 192.168.1.254
274 Modem Net Mask 255.255.255.0
275 Modem Broadcast Address 192.168.1.255

290 PPP UserName
291 PPP Service Name
292 PPP Access Concentrator
293 PPP Connect Mode
294 PPP Idle Timeout
295 Conf PPP Authentication Protocol
296 PPP Authentication Protocol none
297 WAN IP Address -
298 WAN Subnet Mask -
299 WAN Default Gateway -
300 Conf DNS Servers -
301 DNS Servers

302 PPP MRU -
303 Conf PPP MRU
304 LCP Echo
305 LCP Echo Retry
ariez

ariez

Member

d/l speed testing at 1.3Mbps
tested after modem was unplugged

Statistics
DSL Information
Line State Up
Modulation DMT
Data Path Fast

To Modem To Internet
Data Rate (kbps) 1536 384
SNR Margin (dB) 24.2 22.0
Line Attenuation (dB) 48.5 31.0
Output power (dBm) 15.4 9.6
Loss of signal 0 0
Loss of frame 0 0
CRC Errors 0 1

ATM Information
VPI / VCI 0/35
In Octets 2954110
In Errors 0
In Unicast Packets 2318
In Non Unicast Packets 0
In Discard Packets 0

Out Octets 732673
Out Errors 0
Out Unicast Packets 2610
Out Non Unicast Packets 0
Out Discard Packets 13

LAN Information
Modem IP Address 192.168.1.254
Modem Netmask 255.255.255.0

Devices on LAN
IP Address MAC Address Name Status
192.168.1.64 00:00:00:00:00:00 192.168.1.64 Active

====================================

30 Modem Health Status Ok
31 DSL Link Status UP
32 Time Since Last Sync 000 days 00:04:16
33 Loss of signal False
34 Loss of Framing False
35 ATM Cell Delineation True
36 Internet Status DOWN
37 Ethernet Link Status UP
38 PPP Connection Status Disconnected
39 PPP Last Connection Error No connection attempted
40 PPP Uptime

50 Test DSL Line Sync Pass
51 ATM Cell Delineation Pass
52 Test ATM Signal Pass
53 Test ATM OAM Segment Ping Pass
54 Test ATM OAM End-to-End Ping Pass
55 Test DSL Ethernet to ATM Pass
56 Test LAN Ethernet Connection Pass
57 Test Mac Bridge to LAN Ethernet Pass
60 Test PPPoE to Ethernet Skipped
61 Test PPP to PPPoE Pass
62 Test PPPoE Server Connect Skipped
63 Test PPPoE Server Session Skipped
65 Test IP to WAN Pass
66 Test IP to LAN Ethernet Skipped
68 Test IP to PPP Pass
69 Test Validate WAN IP Address Skipped
70 Test Gateway Ping Skipped
71 Test DNS Well Known Host Query Skipped
72 Test Primary DNS Ping Skipped
73 Test Secondary DNS Ping Skipped
74 Test Mail Srvr 1 Ping Skipped
75 Test Mail Srvr 2 Ping Skipped
76 Test News Srvr 1 Ping Skipped
77 Test News Srvr 2 Ping Skipped
78 Test Web Portal 1 Ping Skipped
79 Test Web Portal 2 Ping Skipped
80 Test PPPoE Connect to Gateway Skipped

90 Active VCs provisioned 1
91 DSLAM Vendor Id
92 DSL Line Mode DMT
93 DSL Training Mode Multimode
94 Conf VPI 0
95 Conf VCI 35
96 Conf PVC Search List 0/35, 8/35, 0/43, 0/51, 0/59, 8/43, 8/51, 8/59
97 VPI 0
98 VCI 35
99 VC Encapsulation LLC
100 DSL Line Type Fast
101 DSL Line Interleaved Depth 1

110 Default Device Enabled False
111 Default Device Mac Address 00:00:00:00:00:00
112 Default Device IP Address 192.168.1.64
113 Default Device Address Type Private
114 Service Provider Name
115 Service Provider Phone
116 Service Provider URL
117 Service Provider Help URL
118 Modem MAC Address
119 LAN DHCP Server Enabled False
120 DHCP Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
121 DHCP Start IP Address 192.168.1.64
122 DHCP End IP Address 192.168.1.64
123 DHCP Default Gateway 192.168.1.254
124 DHCP Default Lease Time 001 days 00:00:00
125 Domain name
126 DHCP Leases Allocated 0
127 DHCP Leases Available 0

Rx Tx
140 Current Rate 1536 384
141 Previous Rate 0 0
142 DSL Max Rate 1756 480
144 Current ATTN DR 4288 896
145 Current SNRM 22.0 22.0
146 Current LATN 48.5 31.0
147 Current SATN - -
148 Current TP 15.4 9.6

15 Min 24 Hour Yesterday
160 Time Elapsed 234 234 0
161 Chan Received Blks 15063 15063 0
162 Chan Transmitted Blks 15062 15062 0
163 Chan Corrected Blks 0 0 0
164 Chan Uncorrected Blks 0 0 0
165 HEC Vcnt - - -
166 HEC Tcnt - - -
167 HEC Ucnt 0 0 0
168 ICBE - - -
169 LCD 0 0 0
170 NCD 0 0 0
171 CVL 0 0 0
172 LCD Tx 0 0 0
173 NCD Tx 0 0 0
174 CVL Tx 1 1 0
175 LOF 0 0 0
176 LOS 0 0 0
177 LOSS - - -
178 LOL - - -
179 LPR - - -
180 ES 0 0 0
181 SESL 0 0 0
182 UASL 0 0 0
183 ECL 0 0 0
184 ECSL - - -
185 ECL Tx - - -
186 Inits - - -
187 FastR - - -
188 Failed FastR - - -
189 DSL Initialization Errors 0 0 0
190 DSL Initialization Timeouts 0 0 0
191 DSL Line Search Initializations - - -
192 DSL Loss of Margin Failures - - -
193 ISP Connection Establishment - - -

231 DSL Rate Mode -
232 Conf Target SNR Margin -

Oct Err PkU PkNU Disc
240 LAN IP Tx 128897 0 134 25 0
241 LAN IP Rx 20350 0 130 43 0
242 LAN Ethernet Tx 732028 0 2754 49 0
243 LAN Ethernet Rx 3067907 0 2475 25 0
244 LAN PPPoE Rx - - - - -
245 IP 2684 Tx 0 0 0 0 0
246 IP 2684 Rx 0 0 0 0 0
247 Ethernet 2684 Tx
248 Ethernet 2684 Rx 2957132 0 2340 0 0

260 Ethernet Rate 100Mbps
261 Ethernet Duplex Full

270 Internet Connection Type Bridged
271 Modem Configuration Bridged
272 NAPT Enabled False
273 Modem IP Address 192.168.1.254
274 Modem Net Mask 255.255.255.0
275 Modem Broadcast Address 192.168.1.255
ariez

ariez

Member

any ideas?

justbits
DSL is dead. Long live DSL!
Premium Member
join:2003-01-08
Chicago, IL

justbits

Premium Member

Looks like you've tried a few things.
If the bitrate of the modem is changing, that has nothing to do with your PC... it's a problem in the telephone network, not your home Ethernet network.

Good:
140 Current Rate 1536 384
142 DSL Max Rate 1756 480

Excellent:
144 Current ATTN DR 4288 896
145 Current SNRM 22.0 22.0
146 Current LATN 48.5 31.0

Dunno:
148 Current TP 15.4 9.6

Incredibly Bad Download Rates for the excellent attenuation values:
140 Current Rate 224 384
142 DSL Max Rate 364 480
144 Current ATTN DR 384 896

Excellent, but bitrate is incredibly bad:
145 Current SNRM 18.5 22.0
146 Current LATN 46.0 31.0

Dunno:
148 Current TP 12.8 11.1

How far have you tried isolating the problem?
Your best way to deal with this would be to go back to the most minimal configuration you can... a single filter, single telephone (& answering machine) and the DSL modem, with a directly line out a window to the phone jack in the NID at the back of the house. Try that out for a day or two. If it still persists, try replacing the filter with another one and swapping out the telephone and/or answering machine. Basically, attempt to isolate it down to something in the telephone network and eliminate any device in your home from causing the problem.

If you don't have the time to isolate the problem yourself, you could have your DSL provider try a few things.

1) If you want a chance for more consistent performance, ask if they can put you on a "maintenance" profile (interleaving enabled.) This adds considerably better error correction and some latency to the connection, but if there is something interfering with the line, interleaving can sometimes allow the modem to deal better with the poor line conditions. If the problem keeps showing up even with interleaving enabled, tweaking the ADSL "software configuration" any further wont fix the problem.

2) Another alternative would be to see if they can turn on ADSL2+ at the DSLAM... very unlikely, but if they can, when a line problem occurs, ADSL2+ will dynamically downgrade and upgrade the speed based on line conditions. ADSL is very lame... if line conditions get bad enough to resync to a lower bit rate, ADSL will not attempt to measure line quality and automatically switch to a higher bit rate until a loss of sync occurs.

3) Ask if they have an IP-DSLAM (i.e. U-verse DSL) that can serve you. That might get you ADSL2+ or VDSL.

4) If you can isolate the problem to outside of your NID, ask if they can switch your F1 or F2 pairs. They may or may not be willing to do this, even if you can reasonably prove that it is not your equipment causing the failure.

Beyond that, if the source of the problem is out of your control (RFI) or an intermittent line problem, it will be a long and tiresome journey to locate the source of your problem.

And, if all else fails, make sure they know you are considering alternative Internet provider paths that don't include DSL... and be prepared to switch. If your ISP can't consistently provide the service you are paying for, that's something else you should make known as being unacceptable. Make sure you run some speed tests at »www.broadband.gov/ too.