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1 edit | [Other] Danica Patrick I'm so sick of Ms. Patrick. As you know she is a veteran race car driver. First in open wheel Indy style cars and then in the past couple of years she has moved over to NASCAR.
I'm sick of Ms. Patrick the driver, not the person. She has all ways come across as a sincere, dedicated, and personable, person and also a true professional as far as her dedication and effort in racing.
She also happens to be a babe and that is why she is the focus and therein as a former race car driver, (amateur), my unhappiness with her.
She is a very average race car driver. She would be what is known in MLB as a journeyman in terms of her talent. Not bad, not good, just overall mediocre with strengths and weaknesses.
But because of her gender and exceptional good looks the camera and media is all ways all over her in coverage.
In this past weekend Daytona 500, the king of the NASCAR series races Ms. Patrick once again showed her marginal talent. She was running third with half a lap to go and in a very fast well handling car when everyone made their move. Five cars blew by her like she was running on four flats and she did nothing to respond, counter or react or race for the line and finished eighth.
If it was guy that had had that happen to her the media would have been shredding her poor effort and lack of experience or talent. But no, with her it was a great victory to have a woman finishing eighth and talk of how she would get better. (How many years of they been saying that and how many races has she won on either the open wheel circuit or NASCAR?
Forget about it. She is in over her head. Her future is in simply finishing the race and as a result that goes with such a thing in NASCAR finish as high she can. One day she may even get very lucky and win one major race.
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| said by Blogger:In this past weekend Daytona 500, the king of the NASCAR series races Ms. Patrick once again showed her marginal talent. She was running third with half a lap to go and in a very fast well handling car when everyone made their move. Five cars blew by her like she was running on four flats and she did nothing to respond, counter or react or race for the line and finished eighth.
If it was guy that had had that happen to her the media would have been shredding her poor effort and lack of experience or talent. But no, with her it was a great victory to have a woman finishing eighth and talk of how she would get better. (How many years of they been saying that and how many races has she won on either the open wheel circuit or NASCAR?
I didn't hear anyone talk bad about Greg Biffle, as she was folloing him (he was in 2nd) and all those same cars except for 1 flew past him also as they got caught on the outside when Johnson went low to block .. so a guy did do the same thing as he went from 2nd to 6th ... |
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You don't have to be a winner to make a boatload of money. At one point Tom Kite was #1 on the career money list despite never having won a major tournament. If Patrick can continue top ten finishes she'll retire filthy rich.
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Name recognition = TV ratings = $ (for all of NASCAR).
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said by Blogger:But because of her gender and exceptional good looks the camera and media is all ways all over her in coverage.
NASCAR is really a sports entertainment complex and TV stations go for ratings, so that shouldn't be too surprising.
And I fully agree with lew_b that: "Name recognition = TV ratings = $ (for all of NASCAR)."
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A top ten driver is not an average driver, unless that person happens to be a woman.
Anna Kournikova never won a tennis tournament (?) yet she ranks among the top money winners.
I think Danica Patrick has both, looks and talent, but her looks are also a disadvantage. |
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| She started racing with the big boys in 2003. In the ensuing ten years she has won only one race and just a couple of pole positions. She couldn’t hack it in open wheel Indy Car racing reaching the point of not being able to even get up to speed to qualify for the 2011 Indy 500 so she gave up and in a marketing decision seeing she wasn't competitive where she was she moved to NASCAR where before the Daytona 500 she ranked quite low in points awarded for racing performance or finishes.
If she weren’t a beautiful young woman no one would be talking about her and she would have been out of racing years ago. However, NASCAR is one racing venue where she has the most chance to pick up a win. 
It is true though she is a NASCAR attraction and good for marketing and is wisely cashing in on her looks and publicity.
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said by Blogger:She also happens to be a babe and that is why she is the focus and therein as a former race car driver, (amateur), my unhappiness with her.
I don't see this as too terribly different than Oscar Pistorius. A popular highly-visible person doing something seldom or never done before is always good for a sport's publicity level and income.
Wait til the first nun in NASCAR.
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said by Moorecards:I didn't hear anyone talk bad about Greg Biffle, as she was folloing him (he was in 2nd) and all those same cars except for 1 flew past him also as they got caught on the outside when Johnson went low to block .. so a guy did do the same thing as he went from 2nd to 6th ...
And what is Biffle's record in racing compared to Ms. Patrick's? Cough, cough.
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| said by Blogger:said by Moorecards:I didn't hear anyone talk bad about Greg Biffle, as she was folloing him (he was in 2nd) and all those same cars except for 1 flew past him also as they got caught on the outside when Johnson went low to block .. so a guy did do the same thing as he went from 2nd to 6th ...
And what is Biffle's record in racing compared to Ms. Patrick's? Cough, cough. you are losing me .... you said if it happen to a guy, the media would jump all over it .. or do you mean if it was a man rookie ?? |
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Danica Patrick has her ride in NASCAR Sprint Cup for one reason only, her sponsor. There are more deserving drivers than Patrick in NASCAR's ranks. Essentially she bought her way to NASCAR's top racing tier. That is the number one reason I am not a fan. She most certainly has talent and hasn't paid a lot of dues yet but, if her ride in Sprint Cup was dependent on talent alone and dues paid in the sport then she would be on a waiting list behind dozens of other drivers, perhaps hundreds. She has a lot to prove to me on the track and not because of her gender but because she bought her ride.
What happened to Patrick at the end of the Daytona 500 is not surprising at all. She had a great car but she has not built up the good will on the track and in the garage yet. The top 500 finishers are multi year NASCAR veterans. They aren't going to help her for the win and would not expect help from her. Tony Stewart or Ryan Newman, her teammates, might have helped her but they were not in position to do so. If anything Patrick would be given team orders to help Stewart since he has yet to win the 500. The helping aspect of winning a race is essential at the two super speedways on the Sprint Cup schedule. The other tracks it is very much less important.
This Sunday's race at Phoenix will establish a better benchmark for Patrick's ranking among NASCAR's best drivers. The track is a difficult flat track. It takes driver skill and driver feedback to crew for proper in race adjustments. Patrick will have absolutely no excuse about her equipment. She is on the same team as Cup Champion Tony Stewart. She has top flight equipment.
The positive about Patrick driving in NASCAR's top tier is her popularity and name recognition worldwide. She will put some people in the seats and people will watch the race on TV who otherwise wouldn't. She has her detractors but she will be a net positive for the sport. During 2013 if she is not competing for race wins and is mid pack in the point standings then the positive impact will be less.
On a personal, less objective note, I don't like it that she is screwing anther Sprint Cup driver  . Ricky Stenhouse is not her teammate so there is bound to be some on track drama at some point this season. I can do without that.
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"finished eighth"
Hmmm....yes, she did indeed AND led a lap AND was in the top 10 the entire race after starting from the pole. The outside line @ the end of the race was where she needed to stay IMHO. It was way more secure all day than the bottom or middle. She was quoted as saying she considered pulling in front of JR when he made the move to the bottom with Mark Martin but reconsidered. At those speeds she stood a good chance of wrecking many cars if it did not work and eighth is definetly better than a DNF.
In all conversations concerning DP, some are rooters and some are haters. However, I'd give up my left wheel bearing and right wheel nut to climb into her fire suit with her.....just sayin. |
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said by drslash:This Sunday's race at Phoenix will establish a better benchmark for Patrick's ranking among NASCAR's best drivers. The track is a difficult flat track. It takes driver skill and driver feedback to crew for proper in race adjustments. Patrick will have absolutely no excuse about her equipment. She is on the same team as Cup Champion Tony Stewart. She has top flight equipment.
The positive about Patrick driving in NASCAR's top tier is her popularity and name recognition worldwide. She will put some people in the seats and people will watch the race on TV who otherwise wouldn't. She has her detractors but she will be a net positive for the sport. During 2013 if she is not competing for race wins and is mid pack in the point standings then the positive impact will be less.
On a personal, less objective note, I don't like it that she is screwing anther Sprint Cup driver . Ricky Stenhouse is not her teammate so there is bound to be some on track drama at some point this season. I can do without that.
I speculate she will likely not finish the race, probably wrecking the car. I bet she will be gone from NASCAR by the end off next years season.
Her talent? One win in 11 years. One, count them. Greg Biffel was mentioned in an earlier post. He has won 18 races and been in the top ten or on the podium too many times to count. Patrick can barely claim any numbers there either.
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said by Blogger:Her talent? One win in 11 years.
Beating only half of the IndyCar field, as the other half was racing halfway across the world in Long Beach. |
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Danica raced a very good 500. She was in the top 10 almost the entire race. Won the pole. Led a lap. Finished 8th. If that is over rated then your standards are a bit high. Is she the best driver out there? No. Is she a good driver? Yes.
That being said, SHE should have made the move Jr. did. If she would have, she MAY have actually won. I think she realizes that as well. At least that's how I took her post race interview. |
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If you're looking for a mediocre NASCAR driver who's never won anything to get mad at, here's one who just got suspended.
Of course, he's not a good looking female it may not make you nearly as angry.
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said by Mittvok:Danica raced a very good 500. She was in the top 10 almost the entire race. Won the pole. Led a lap. Finished 8th. If that is over rated then your standards are a bit high. Is she the best driver out there? No. Is she a good driver? Yes.
That being said, SHE should have made the move Jr. did. If she would have, she MAY have actually won. I think she realizes that as well. At least that's how I took her post race interview.
I rate her on her performance over her entire career which to be generous is somewhere between dismal and just for show. If she wasn't a hottie she would have been out of competing years ago.
Also as for her one performance in one race with a car that was in its performance one of the best cars on the track and the fact she got to stay up front because of it plus it was a NASCAR "race" and in NASCAR getting to start out up front for whatever reason is a bigger advantage than in other types of racing like open wheel/Indy cars where she wasn't able to come close to being competitive or hacking it.
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said by Makers :Danica Patrick is the most successful woman in the history of American open-wheel racing, and is one of the most famous and recognized female athletes in the world. She is the only woman to ever win in the IndyCar series as well as holding the highest finish by a woman (3rd place) at the Indianapolis 500.
Growing up in Roscoe, Illinois, Patrick started go-kart racing at the age of ten, and became a world go-karting champion by her mid-teens. She left high school at the age of 16 to move to England to train for and race in the British national series, where she earned a second-place in Britain's Formula Ford Festival, the highest finish ever by an American.
After returning to the States, Patrick started driving for Rahal Letterman Racing, and in 2005 she became only the fourth woman to compete in the Indianapolis 500. She led the race for 19 laps, a first for any woman in racing. Patrick was subsequently named Rookie of the Year for both the 2005 Indianapolis 500 and the 2005 IndyCar Series season. She continued to make history with her first place finish at the Indy Japan 300 on April 20, 2008, becoming the first woman ever to win an Indy car race. She later placed 3rd in the 2009 Indianapolis 500, which was both a personal best for her at the track, and the highest finish by a woman in the event's history. Patrick holds the IRL record for most consecutive races running at the finish.
In 2010, Patrick began racing in the NASCAR Nationwide Series, and in 2012, Patrick left the IndyCar series to compete full-time in the NASCAR Nationwide Series for JR Motorsports and part-time in the Sprint Cup Series for Stewart-Haas Racing. She continues to set records for women in racing, and remains a sought-after advertising spokesperson and model. All of NASCAR has become bloated by monetization of tangential hooplah and appeals to a broader audience. As a Sprint Cup rookie, she continues to earn respect for her driving skills, in my eye. |
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She qualified 40th in a 43 car field for the race today in Phoenix. She crashed on lap 184 of the 316-lap race and finished in 39th place.
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