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jasmo34
join:2008-03-20
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jasmo34 to rocca

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Re: CRTC Decision

Hmmm... Some of these suggestions are starting to sound like the plans when UBB was introduced. Even TSI was going to 'severely' throttle you when you reached your cap, at least on some plans; I remember that because people were worried their VOIP would not even work at 64K, and many asked TSI to make it 128K!

Rocca...

What aspects of a user's connection can you 'control' and 'dynamically adjust' on a per-user basis, at your end?

-Can you control (reduce) the connection speed at any time of your choosing?
-Can you adjust the connection speed automatically, based on time-of-day, and a person's account settings/status?
-Can those adjustments be done 'mid-session'? (without the user logging out and back in)

Assuming your systems and equipment can do these things, is there a performance overhead in doing them dynamically? Would that affect only that line, or would it impact a larger group?

Of course, your metering/logging/accounting systems must also handle all these options. How SMART are your METERS?

To me, a lot of this 'seems' more feasible for DSL, because of the logins. I have no idea if any of this is possible on cable.
mario9999998
join:2000-08-25
Canada

mario9999998

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This is essentially like Rogers' Speed Boost (with line speeds boosted up to the max rated line speed, but not boosted to mitigate congested periods).

ReGenesis
@bell.ca

ReGenesis to jasmo34

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to jasmo34
As the point of this conversation is to develop different packages designed to take variable internet connectivity into a fixed maximum (the connections to Cogeco), I would also like to know how this happens.

For example, in Cogeco land around my house you have basic, standard, advanced and pro packages. If you hit the maximum throughput with your connections to cogeco, what happens?

Do all requests get prioritized equally and everyone slows down? Or do pro packages (because they pay more) get higher quality of service then an basic package? Or Vice Versa as to not slow down the masses for a few guys with 60Mbps connections that are saturating the network?

rocca
Start.ca
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join:2008-11-16
London, ON

rocca to jasmo34

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Almost everything is possible, some of the scenarios pitched require very specialized equipment, some of the scenarios can be done with existing routers and edge devices. With Rogers currently per-user anything is painful, but that will change in about a month. With Cogeco it's easier, but individual speed buckets are pretty tricky and generally you create policing classes for groups of users. Ie, we could create an 'unlimited user' class that shared x amount of bandwidth for everyone in it, but to limit a subset of users to specific individual speeds is a lot more difficult on cable (and very easy on dsl).
rocca

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We try to avoid saturation, if it does happen then everyone has fair share at the pipes, however statistically speaking the people with faster speeds will still get more bits through than people with slower speeds.