 | tracing a mac address is there any way for me to trace a mac address? i was sifting router logs and detected an unknown mac id. -- ".. the sofa has just vanished." ".. well, that's one mystery less." |
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 jaykaykay4 Ever YoungPremium,MVM join:2000-04-13 Scottsdale, AZ kudos:22 | Not likely.
Part of the mac address identifies the manufacturer of the device. The rest is defined by that manufacturer. With that, you're narrowing down the possibilities a bit -- i.e. you know that it's a wireless device made by Intel.
You're not narrowing it down too much though. Most Windows laptops I've used in the past five years all use Intel made internal wireless cards.
And... it's not too difficult to spoof a MAC address.
If you know the MAC address of the intruder, why not just block it? That won't help you identify the perp (unless somebody complains that he/she can't connect), but it will secure you a bit more
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 davePremium,MVM join:2000-05-04 not in ohio kudos:8 | reply to horacebork What do you mean by 'trace'?
If you're seeing a MAC address, it must be on the network that saw it (if wired-LAN side, then on your wired LAN; if WiFi, then directly connected to your router; if WAN side, then it's something else on that wire). MAC addresses are next-hop only. |
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 1 edit | i have pasted in the items in question from the log (edited). by trace, i mean find the source device. and it seems to only be associated with the network for a very short period of time. my router has mac address filtering, but only 'allow', i think. (edit: seems like i can set a filter for a mac address to 'no access' - good news) it's an airport extreme base station (4th gen).
also, can i scan my network for a mac address? ---
Feb 27 10:45:41 Severity:5 Associated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 10:45:41 Severity:5 Installed unicast CCMP key for supplicant 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 10:50:05 Severity:5 Disassociated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 10:50:15 Severity:5 Associated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 10:50:15 Severity:5 Installed unicast CCMP key for supplicant 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:15:37 Severity:5 Disassociated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:15:47 Severity:5 Associated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:15:47 Severity:5 Installed unicast CCMP key for supplicant 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:21:04 Severity:5 Deauthenticating with station ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff (reserved 3). Feb 27 11:21:04 Severity:5 Deauthenticating with station ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff (reserved 2). Feb 27 11:21:05 Severity:5 Deauthenticating with station ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff (reserved 3). Feb 27 11:21:05 Severity:5 Deauthenticating with station ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff (reserved 2). Feb 27 11:21:08 Severity:5 Associated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:21:08 Severity:5 Installed unicast CCMP key for supplicant 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:28:41 Severity:5 Idle timeout for station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:28:41 Severity:5 Disassociating with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 (reserved 4). Feb 27 11:28:41 Severity:5 Disassociated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:29:18 Severity:5 Associated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:29:18 Severity:5 Installed unicast CCMP key for supplicant 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:54:31 Severity:5 Idle timeout for station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 Feb 27 11:54:31 Severity:5 Disassociating with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 (reserved 4). Feb 27 11:54:31 Severity:5 Disassociated with station 00:24:d2:ab:05:50 -- ".. the sofa has just vanished." ".. well, that's one mystery less." |
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2 edits | said by horacebork:also, can i scan my network for a mac address?
Well you can't "scan" as such but you can use an arp utility either on a PC or on your router if it supports it's use.
As jaykaykay said you can lookup a MAC address to find some basic info.
For example this site says this
quote: MAC address 0024D2 Company Askey Computer
about 00:24:d2:ab:05:50.
From that log it looks to me as though someone tried to connect to your Wi-Fi but didn't successfully connect.
Are you using security for your Wi-Fi? You should be using WPA-AES with a long password. WEP is breakable in seconds and address filtering is easily bypassed. -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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 | If I'm not mistaken, FiOS Actiontek routers have an "Askey Computer" MAC address. |
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 | reply to horacebork If you have a basic home router and this came over wireless, not much you can do to "trace" this MAC address. a) it's wireless, so WHERE are you going to start looking for this MAC address, start knocking on neighborhood doors?, and b) as jaykaykay said, it's not that hard to spoof a MAC address if you really wanted to.
If you don't want this guy connecting, make sure your wireless is locked down.
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 | reply to StuartMW the wireless is wpa2 with a strong password, but not a full-length (64 byte) password, which i have been avoiding. maybe it's time to bring that issue to the front. -- ".. the sofa has just vanished." ".. well, that's one mystery less." |
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 1 edit | reply to Raphion a fios router on the network would be truly odd because our building is wired for cable and does not have fios. it has to be something else.
now i just want to scan the other apartments on the network for that mac address.
btw: i have cut my router output to 50% to reduce it's range. would a vpn prevent others from connecting to my wifi?
also, my wifi is set to not broadcast. not sure how someone picked up the network name.
-- ".. the sofa has just vanished." ".. well, that's one mystery less." |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1 | reply to horacebork mac filters are easily circumvented. It will cause trouble for legitimate clients and not affect the bad guys at all. -- * seek help if having trouble coping --Standard disclaimers apply.-- |
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 davePremium,MVM join:2000-05-04 not in ohio kudos:8 | reply to StuartMW In case you didn't know, Windows has an ARP command. This only seems to query the local ARP cache, so may be of limited use.
To resolve a MAC address to an IP address, arp -a | findstr nn-nn-nn-nn-nn-nn |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1 | 192.168.1.104
now what? |
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| reply to dave said by dave:In case you didn't know, Windows has an ARP command. Yes I know.
This only seems to query the local ARP cache, so may be of limited use. I'm aware of that too. Not knowing whether the OP let his router assign IP's (most common) or has a service on a PC doing it I wrote quote: ...you can use an arp utility either on a PC or on your router if it supports it's use.
My router has a very good command line processor and since I have it configured as a DHCP server I'd use it's ARP command (and have). -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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 | stuartmw:
I'm aware of that too. Not knowing whether the OP let his router assign IP's (most common) or has a service on a PC doing it I wrote
quote: ...you can use an arp utility either on a PC or on your router if it supports it's use. i like to use static ips, so i assign them. my router is an airport extreme base station. i'm almost positive there's no command line access. might there be a way that some mix of disabling dhcp and other configs could help secure the router?
re: arp - i'm running os x, i have arp on the command line. how can i utilize this to help secure my network? and would some machine on the network always have to be on? -- ".. the sofa has just vanished." ".. well, that's one mystery less." |
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 | So wait you statically assign IPs, yet you left DHCP on? From a quick Google search I see that good ol' Apple doesn't think you'd ever want to disable DHCP. Here's a workaround: »macnugget.org/projects/aebx/
Since your router has no command line access you can't check the ARP command there so you're basically at the end of the road here. |
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 | reply to Raphion said by Raphion:If I'm not mistaken, FiOS Actiontek routers have an "Askey Computer" MAC address. Just to add to this, Askey is a huge Chinese OEM, they make network gear for lots of other brands (they're known to make equipment under contract for Actiontec, Netgear, and more). So you cannot really tell much of anything from the vendor name. Probably anyone with a cheap brand USB Wi-Fi adapter is using an Askey made design under the plastic encolosure. |
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 AVDRespice, Adspice, ProspicePremium join:2003-02-06 Onion, NJ kudos:1 | cool name Askey = ACSII |
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 | said by AVD:cool name Askey = ACSII Yeah I know it is a pretty neat little name. |
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| reply to horacebork said by horacebork:i like to use static ips, so i assign them. Actually I have some static IP's and some pseudo-static IP's (IP's assigned through DHCP but "static" based on their MAC address).
That mean's I don't have a have a local DNS server (I use Windows HOST files to name my stuff). -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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| reply to AVD said by AVD:Askey = ACSII For me Ass-Key came to mind  -- Don't feed trolls--it only makes them grow! |
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