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pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA
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Comcast decides to block port 25 IN and OUT with no notice.

Comcast in my area decided to block port 25 IN and OUT so my SMTP would stop working without notice.

Any idea why this would occur with no notice?

»amibotted.comcast.net says All Clear

Comcast has already irked me and now they do this.

claydowns

join:2012-05-24
Ann Arbor, MI

I believe port 25 has been published on their list of blocked ports at »customer.comcast.com/help-and-su···d-ports/

A quick search reveals a blog post about it from August 1st, 2012 on their blog »corporate.comcast.com/comcast-vo···-port-25 The post mentions a slow phase in of the block which probably explains why you're noticing it months after the fact.

From the first link it seems you just need to use one of the alternate SMTP ports. Hope that helps some...



pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA
Reviews:
·Comcast

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said by claydowns:

I believe port 25 has been published on their list of blocked ports at »customer.comcast.com/help-and-su···d-ports/

A quick search reveals a blog post about it from August 1st, 2012 on their blog »corporate.comcast.com/comcast-vo···-port-25 The post mentions a slow phase in of the block which probably explains why you're noticing it months after the fact.

From the first link it seems you just need to use one of the alternate SMTP ports. Hope that helps some...

Thanks for that. I guess Comcast is going to fully block port 25. I thought before they were going to allow it to be open and then block it if they got an abuse complaint.

I am using 587 and the problem is solved.

EDIT: I am going to contact the Customer Security Assurance and see if I can get it removed. I need port 25 as I do Remote IT.

Oedipus

join:2005-05-09
kudos:1
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Not quite sure what you do in "remote IT" () that requires port 25, but as soon as you tell Comcast that they will come right back and either say a.) tough cookies, or b.) get a business class connection.



pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by Oedipus:

Not quite sure what you do in "remote IT" () that requires port 25, but as soon as you tell Comcast that they will come right back and either say a.) tough cookies, or b.) get a business class connection.

That blog post says "Upon request to our Customer Security Assurance team this block can be removed, enabling access to use port 25 for other email domains"

I need port 25 open to test to make sure the mail servers will accept a connection on it via telnet. If all servers blocked port 25 email would cease to function.

AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL

No, but it is very common for ISPs to require their subscribers to go through their own mail servers or use an alternate port that typically requires authentication to contact remote SMTP servers. This really isn't something new.

As was already mentioned, a business connection from Comcast does not have this restriction or a remote intermediary host or VPS can be used to perform the required tests.



pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by AVonGauss:

No, but it is very common for ISPs to require their subscribers to go through their own mail servers or use an alternate port that typically requires authentication to contact remote SMTP servers. This really isn't something new.

As was already mentioned, a business connection from Comcast does not have this restriction or a remote intermediary host or VPS can be used to perform the required tests.

I can do that. I am going to contact them and see what they say tomorrow. It says in the blog post that they will but we will see.


JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
Reviews:
·PHONE POWER
·Comcast

reply to pclover

said by pclover:

Comcast in my area decided to block port 25 IN and OUT so my SMTP would stop working without notice.

Any idea why this would occur with no notice?

»amibotted.comcast.net says All Clear

Comcast has already irked me and now they do this.

Because you're not on a business class account with static IP addresses? That is the only class of service that specifically allows servers, and specifically indicates no ports are blocks.
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dniksich

join:2012-05-23
Gary, IN

reply to pclover
I received this email about it, is it what you're talking about?

Dear Valued XFINITY® Internet Customer,

We care about your email security when using our network. On August 1, Comcast announced that for security reasons we will no longer support the use of port 25 for sending email from programs like Outlook or Apple Mail. It appears that one or more computers connected to your Internet account are using port 25 to send email. A port is a connection through which information flows from a program on your computer, from another computer in a network, or to your computer from the Internet, Port 25 is an unsecured port, and it is increasingly used to send spam emails through malicious computer programs called malware. These spam emails are usually sent by computers that have been infected by viruses, and as a result, most users are unaware that their computers are sending spam. By no longer supporting port 25 to send e-mail, this will help prevent your computer from sending spam without your knowledge.

What You Need To Do:

We are asking you and other impacted customers to change your email program settings to port 465, which provides more security. You will be unable to send email over port 25 once it is disabled, and you will need to update your settings to port 465 in order to continue to send email. Please click the link below for your current email software and follow the step-by-step instructions to change your settings.



jlivingood
Premium,VIP
join:2007-10-28
Philadelphia, PA
kudos:1

reply to pclover

said by pclover:

I am using 587 and the problem is solved.

EDIT: I am going to contact the Customer Security Assurance and see if I can get it removed. I need port 25 as I do Remote IT.

If you switched to 587 and it works, why do you need to move back to port 25?
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JL
Comcast


flwpwr

@comcast.net

reply to pclover
it was in the bill mailers, I am pretty sure I have seen it here, it was notified you just ignored it or did not pay attention. So you learned the hard way like most things in life.



graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL

reply to jlivingood
It's not a matter of not being able to connect to Comcast mail servers on port 25. It's that this policy makes it impossible to connect to any other mail server on port 25. Some people do have a legitimate need to do this.



pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by graysonf:

It's not a matter of not being able to connect to Comcast mail servers on port 25. It's that this policy makes it impossible to connect to any other mail server on port 25. Some people do have a legitimate need to do this.

They do like me but it's a very small percent. They said that they they will try and have the block removed but cannot guarantee that it will not be blocked again.

I think I am going to look into a business account.


graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL

Another option would be to obtain a shell account, perhaps a freebie, on another network that does not block outbound port 25.



pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by graysonf:

Another option would be to obtain a shell account, perhaps a freebie, on another network that does not block outbound port 25.

I could do that. However, The VPS idea inside of the network wouldn't let me make sure it can be accessed outside of the network.

All email to email server communicates over port 25 AFIK for SMTP.


JohnInSJ
Premium
join:2003-09-22
San Jose, CA
Reviews:
·PHONE POWER
·Comcast

said by pclover:

All email to email server communicates over port 25 AFIK for SMTP.

And if you are running a server, you're using comcast business class with a static IP, and your port 25 is not blocked.
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My place : »www.schettino.us


pclover

join:2008-08-02
Santa Cruz, CA
Reviews:
·Comcast

said by JohnInSJ:

said by pclover:

All email to email server communicates over port 25 AFIK for SMTP.

And if you are running a server, you're using comcast business class with a static IP, and your port 25 is not blocked.

Why is it assumed that I am running a server? I need to to test to make sure an email server is working correctly!

biomesh
Premium
join:2006-07-08
Tomball, TX

I don't see how running smtp tests from a residential connection are truly valid tests. What if the SMTP server had its own firewall or blacklist enabled for some of comcast's ip ranges. You should really be doing these tests from a datacenter level connection.



workablob

join:2004-06-09
Houston, TX
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Comcast

reply to pclover

said by pclover:

Comcast in my area decided to block port 25 IN and OUT so my SMTP would stop working without notice.

Any idea why this would occur with no notice?

»amibotted.comcast.net says All Clear

Comcast has already irked me and now they do this.

Comcast began blocking 25 for me a few years ago so I had to configure my Exchange server to use Port 587.

Also, since many recipient's mail system rejects sources that are DHCP I use a smart connector pointing to Comcast SMTP for sending.

Dave
--
I may have been born yesterday. But it wasn't at night.


graysonf
Premium,MVM
join:1999-07-16
Fort Lauderdale, FL

reply to biomesh

said by biomesh:

I don't see how running smtp tests from a residential connection are truly valid tests. What if the SMTP server had its own firewall or blacklist enabled for some of comcast's ip ranges. You should really be doing these tests from a datacenter level connection.

One who is testing against such an SMTP server for legitimate reasons would be aware of those potential problems.
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