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Krisnatharok
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EA using new consoles as excuse for price increases

said by The Tech Report :

EA: PS4 to raise game development costs 5-10%

Brace yourselves; next-gen games are finally coming. And according to Electronic Arts, they'll be 5-10% more expensive to produce. As Joystiq reports, EA CFO Blake Jorgensen addressed the subject of PlayStation 4 game development costs during the company's recent investor conference call.

Jorgensen stated that, "on any one title, it might be five to 10 percent increases in cost, but the real opportunity comes with the ability to expand what you can do in that title." He added that EA also expects to see "larger revenue streams" because of "the excitement around some of those big titles."

Considering the performance delta between current-gen consoles and the PS4, I actually expected the cost increase to be larger. Next-gen consoles should enable much more lifelike characters, not to mention bigger, richer environments—and all of those extra assets take additional manpower to create. Still, if game studios can take full advantage of next-gen platforms (and current-gen PCs) while keeping costs from spiraling out of control, I'm all for it.

Pretty shitty excuse if you ask me, considering that PCs have long been more capable for immense, sprawling games, and we've already been experiencing them for a while...
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Badger3k
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You'd think now that the consoles are moving to the same architecture that the PC uses costs would come down. Has to be less dev time now that everything will be x86.
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puppy

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I guess it's possible if more CPU/memory power means the games are actually bigger, so more content to test and develop.



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It's not the devs that are getting expensive, it's the various EA research groups for marketing, pricing, etc.

It takes a lot of time to properly research whether the install game and start game DLCs should be bundled, sold separately, released on Day 1 or later, and whether they should be priced at $4.99, $10.99 or $20.99.



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Just an FYI that ID Software was the first to charge $60 for a game instead of $50 with Doom 3. At the time, they said that it was due to higher development costs. EA is going to increase the prices now.

Any price increase for games is always going to be looked at as a money grab. The simple fact of the matter is that developers and coders for these games aren't working for the same salary. They are getting raises as well. I do agree that development costs should go down because the architecture is the same now, but I think we all know that prices for games don't decrease once they hit a certain level.

EA's games have been $50-$60 for a while now. Let them charge more. I won't buy them when they first come out and I will wait for them to go on sale, which they will do eventually.
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Krisnatharok
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Digital "deluxe" editions have already been going for $69.99 - $79.99. Expect that to become the norm.



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Price increase is just a money grab specially when there is the unlock DLC mechanic to charge more for the same development time.
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me1212

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This is BS! As if I needed more reason to never buy from them. It can't cost that much, devs(well CDPR) has done amazing stuff with TW2 on pc and it didn't cost $70 or more at launch. Just a money grab, same as $50 to $60 games, people trying to screw console players out of money and them(console gamers and some pc gamers) just "loving" it.

What are game prices going to rise $x each generation now just because stupid people will pay it?



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Consoles are the future of gaming!

F that...

The future is PC gaming, and Free to Play.

Jorgensen is living in the stone age

there are so many free to play, free to get PC games out now, that you could spend 1000s of hours and still not play them all to completion.

Console games/companies make their money off of the ignorance of their console players



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Well I ain't paying for a game that's $80 especially the ones with just singleplayer (bioshock) but why even bother with some of these latest games with the multiplayer? I can't even play it due to my incredible lag connection.. Free to play don't even help, the last 5 free to play games that come out are MMO, MP and coop so thats no fun. Plus I see the gaming future as being a "constant connection" witch means the entire time your playing any game you need to have a constant connection and if that connection drops so does your game.. LAME
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I posted this in the micro-transactions thread, but I'll say it again, this is just boosterism for higher prices, and your typical corporate double speak that states that higher pricess necessarily equal better quality.
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said by Jobbie:

Price increase is just a money grab specially when there is the unlock DLC mechanic to charge more for the same development time.

I agree, and I am just saying that every company is following that model now.
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said by TheThing:

Consoles are the future of gaming!

F that...

The future is PC gaming, and Free to Play.

Jorgensen is living in the stone age

there are so many free to play, free to get PC games out now, that you could spend 1000s of hours and still not play them all to completion.

Console games/companies make their money off of the ignorance of their console players

The future of gaming isn't free to play. I would say that its part of the future, but games that are developed and supported like MMORPGs and regular games by studios have a future. Sure, free to play is good, but there are studio games out there that are simply awesome and free to play cannot touch them.

The key is the price. People are willing to spend $60 on games right now. Would they spend $66 if the price went up 10%? I know I would probably wait for the first sale.
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me1212

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I don't even pay $60, I refuse to I've yet to see a game worth that much. Its been years since I bought a game at full release price, be it on pc or console, save for pokemon but thats not $60.



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The Witcher 2. I don't regret it for a moment.

Battlefield 3 is another that was well worth it + Premium.

Don't ask me about my investment in Star Citizen... that's TBD.
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said by Krisnatharok:

The Witcher 2. I don't regret it for a moment.

Battlefield 3 is another that was well worth it + Premium.

Don't ask me about my investment in Star Citizen... that's TBD.

Battlefield 3 and Dead Space 3 were my last two $60 purchases. I was ok with those purchases. If the price were to go up, I will just have to evaluate those purchases as well. The odds that I will drop $66 or $70 on a game are slimmer, but I just may if I am a big fan of the series.
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I am wondering as to why I should give a shit considering I can't play PC games on that.
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Krisnatharok
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EA will lead the way, and other distributors will follow suit. Costs will be passed on regardless as to which platform you play on.
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Cthen

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Pure speculation on your part and a very bad excuse to post console bullshit in the PC gaming forum.
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me1212

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EA makes pc games too, you honestly think they will have a lower price on the pc?



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said by Krisnatharok:

EA will lead the way (fooling all pc gamers while making that company rich), and other distributors will follow suit. Costs will be passed on regardless as to which platform you play on.



Krisnatharok
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said by Cthen:

Pure speculation on your part and a very bad excuse to post console bullshit in the PC gaming forum.

lolwut? Are you serious? Do you think this will have nothing to do with the price of PC games? Do you think EA will release Battlefield 4 for $79.99 for Xbox 720 and PS4, but it will be $59.99 for PC?

I must have missed the /s tag on your post...
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The Antihero

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I haven't owned a console since the SNES. Every time they come out with a new console, it's only a matter of time before they stop making games for the one you've already bought. And a lot of these systems aren't backwards-compatible, so you won't be able to play your old games on them.

At least when you upgrade a PC, most of your old games will still work.


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When you factor in prices for inflation games are much cheaper today as compared to 20 years ago. In the end the market will speak. Wii's success was partially attributed to its lower price tag. I also find games lose their value faster than they used to (thanks steam). If one can wait a few months it can almost be found cheaper.

»www.1up.com/news/90s-game-price-···harticle

said by Krisnatharok:

lolwut? Are you serious? Do you think this will have nothing to do with the price of PC games? Do you think EA will release Battlefield 4 for $79.99 for Xbox 720 and PS4, but it will be $59.99 for PC?

It wasn't that long ago I seem to recall many console games had a $10 markup over PC games. If they find alot of PC players won't buy it for 80 bucks they will be forced to either lower the price or get out of PC gaming.


Krisnatharok
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A matter of time? Obviously. The xbox 360 has been around for nigh on eight years. That's not a bad return on your investment. I bet Windows 8 doesn't last as long.
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me1212

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said by graniterock:

if they find alot of PC players won't buy it for 80 bucks they will be forced to either lower the price or get out of PC gaming.

No, they'll blame piracy and put more draconian drm on the game. Its 2013 that how the world game world works now.


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EA is having some great PR lately.



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Maybe the shareholders will get a clue sometime this century and fire all the dumb execs... just maybe.


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said by diablo1892:

Well I ain't paying for a game that's $80 especially the ones with just singleplayer (bioshock) but why even bother with some of these latest games with the multiplayer? I can't even play it due to my incredible lag connection.. Free to play don't even help, the last 5 free to play games that come out are MMO, MP and coop so thats no fun. Plus I see the gaming future as being a "constant connection" witch means the entire time your playing any game you need to have a constant connection and if that connection drops so does your game.. LAME

If I was you, I would just give up gaming. Take up knitting, or something.


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here is what the future of consoles should be:

»www.cnn.com/2013/03/12/tech/gami···t=hp_bn5

pretty awesome, $99, and all games are free or at least have free trial

if I can get casual gaming into my living room for this cheap, and enjoy it with my wife, I'm in