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penguin318
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Re: [Cable] NEW RATES - Cogeco

really starting to regret switching to cable last week, it's going to cost me $40 a month more to keep my 30mbps unlimited... or I will have to switch to 10mbps to stay at the same price, and I get to pay $5 to do it, could have also saved money and got the D2 modem

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said by TSI Marc:

maybe the trick is unlimited 6 meg dsl plus 20meg 150gig cable.. dual wireless routers.. switch between the two for simple surfing and for all the heavy stuff use the dsl to keep costs down.
I dunno. *shrug*

You're prepared to support something like that?

Can't say it isn't creative, that's for sure.

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Last I heard was September 2013.

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LOL.. well, it's two separate lines.. that's how I have it setup at my place.. I've got a SkyFi wireless, DSL, ADSL and Cable.. plus my 3G cell/ipad... I ain't goin' offline!

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I recall there was some talk of bonding a cable and a DSL line a while back by someone a couple of years ago.

If you guys could get something like that going, a lot of people might jump on that if they can't get more than 6 on DSL.

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said by TSI Marc:

LOL.. well, it's two separate lines.. that's how I have it setup at my place.. I've got a SkyFi wireless, DSL, ADSL and Cable.. plus my 3G cell/ipad... I ain't goin' offline!

At my store we have DSL, are about to get cable installed and have a Wind Mobile data stick.

Screw secondary redundancy. Tertiary or bust!
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Last I heard was September 2013.

FTTN in September 2013 for Chatham? Seriously.

Holy crap, there's hope for "small-town" (at least, according to people in the GTA) Ontario after all.

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haha xactly!

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said by ekster:

I recall there was some talk of bonding a cable and a DSL line a while back by someone a couple of years ago.

If you guys could get something like that going, a lot of people might jump on that if they can't get more than 6 on DSL.

It was a pet project of CanerisErik back when he was still working at Caneris, I think.

There is a lot of stuff in that space though. I believe most of the Linux based router firmwares are capable of failover and load balancing if you want to dig really deep. Meanwhile there is pfsense. If anybody wants to help me out with pfsense I'd be very appreciative--it has been one of those projects that never really gets started for something like 6 months now....
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Is there a working usage meter yet for Cogeco?

I really have no idea what my usage would be as my online activities have changed significantly since I've switched from Cogeco. I used to download a tonne but now hardly download anything but on the other hand stream NHL Gamecenter, MLB.tv, Netflix and other streaming video probably more than I watch satellite tv. I'm at the point where I would cancel satellite completely if I didn't have a wife who required HGTV, Woman's channel and all that other garbage.

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said by TSI Marc:

LOL.. well, it's two separate lines.. that's how I have it setup at my place.. I've got a SkyFi wireless, DSL, ADSL and Cable.. plus my 3G cell/ipad... I ain't goin' offline!

You could always just get 8x6 ADSL with MLPPP so that you can get 48/8 DSL :P
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WOW... what an increase.. I feel for TSI having to post that.. Im sure it didnt sit well with them either..

Hmm now im thinking that cable beta might have been a bad Idea.. lol

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Yeah, but then he wouldn't have the network redundancy that utilizing different connection methods provides

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that does sound like fun though

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sigh, it does. Yes it does.

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The trick is to get 48/8 ADSL MLPPP in a single bundle going through a router that just does passthrough, then a 60 meg cable line as a backup with limited usage. You then get a second router that treats the MLPPP bundle and cable line as two separate connections, and set that second router up to do failover.

If the MLPPP bundle (which itself has per-line redundancy) fails, automatically fail-over to the cable line. The cable line is more expensive per GB, but it would only be used rarely, so it need only carry the load until the DSL can be brought back up.

This sort of thing is expensive enough that only a business or somebody who owns an ISP can probably afford to do it :P

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its time to build your own network. if you keep on relying on rogers/bell/cogeco/shaw/telus/videotron network they are going to bankrupt you with the capacity based billing charges ....

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said by MJB33:

its time to build your own network. if you keep on relying on rogers/bell/cogeco/shaw/telus/videotron network they are going to bankrupt you with the capacity based billing charges ....

Thank you for volunteering the ten billion dollars required to accomplish this. I would have preferred you spend it on a highspeed rail connection between Montreal and Toronto, but I'll settle for you funding a new last-mile for TekSavvy.

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Yeah no shit.

Seriously though, I've considered a dedicated P2P wireless link with one of the local WISPs here in town, believe me.

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Such things work for so few people, however. If I wanted to do this, the only realistic approach would be to convince my building management to let me install the antenna on the roof of the highrise (to connect to somebody like skynet), and then to hook into the building's existing ethernet network (which runs down each corridor but not into apartments) and then reconfigure their wireless routers to enable full-speed access to anybody who subscribes to skynet...

The current "free wifi" in my building uses very expensive 802.11n enterprise routers on each floor, but they run everything (250 apartments) through a single videotron cable line, and they throttle per-user speeds heavily to keep things running.

That actually bodes well for if they ever want to deploy Fibe FTTH, though. Bell Aliant's guides for deployment in MDUs gives the example of using existing building infrastructure if possible, and running ethernet down building corridors so they can drill a hole into each apartment to get service in is one example they give. It's far cheaper to do that than try to pull fiber or ethernet through the telephone conduits. Since my building already has the ethernet infrastructure that passes each apartment (on one side of the corridor, at least), they could leverage that.

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Yeah, we own our own commercial property and the neighbouring residential building. We have no restrictions or limits on what we can do short of municipal bylaws.
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Considering that I pay 170 a month for 27/7 on Comcast, 60 for 191 looks pretty good if it was here stateside.

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Is that a commercial connection?

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Seems so.

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wow... how glad i am i never switched to cable. I haven't really been following, been rather busy these last 30 days but is the same happening to DSL as well?

We had some of the highest rates based on speed in the world and now this must put us at THE highest doesn't it?

Most definitely feel bad for TSI but business is business. Rogers is doing everything they can to push out the IISP

tristen1230
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So the 20 Mbps is the 14 Mbps which is shows on the site at the moment? Will probably go down to 300 GB or 10 Mbps DSL unlimited.
ShetiPhian
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Belleville, ON

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tristen1230: yep
I'm dropping to 10 with 300 myself, but I've got an issue somewhere and only getting ~9 now anyway (weekends are much lower)

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Well I guess the 20 Mbps 300 Gb is not bad. Only $6 more and way better than Cogeco 90 Gb and only 14 Mbps. And I'll just make sure if I have to download a big file it will be during the unlimited usage period. I am still happy. =)

If anyone knows, is there a date which these will take effect?
Cdnmoose
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Does that mean you pay for unlimited but only get unlimited from 2am to 8am???

Please someone fill me in on this

Thanks in advanced!!

Moose

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No, it is like DSL. Any plan whether 150 gb, 300 gb or unlimited if they will be counting bandwidth now will not count during those times.

At least I hope it is like the DSL.