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[DSL] 2 x 25mbit mlppp still possible?

If you're patient, which seems like considering you've been outta the loop for sometime, there is a 50/10 package coming out shortly at TSI. Some other indies are already offering it, e.g. Velcom.

If you are really after the upload increase than the 25/10 plan is your best bet and I believe it is supported, however, I don't think many members here have that due to the cost. Guspaz might know more.

reply to gord27
TSI supports MLPPP, but finding router hardware & firmware combination to bond at those speeds is gonna be a challenge.

Tomato/MLPPP still only works on the WRT54G/GL/GS line of routers which are not powerful enough to bond 2x25mbit.

And the project pretty much died since the introduction of higher speed tiers for DSL & Cable.

I think the only way to do it would be to run the Linux/MLPPP or Zeroshell/MLPPP but you'd need a dedicated machine with multiple network cards to run it.

Better just wait for 50/10 to be available which should be soon, if your line will support it that is.
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reply to gord27
pfsense is a capable option. I've run 8*6/1 on a 500MHz net5501-70. You could do 2*25/10 on the same, or any Atom or Brazos machine.

I'm currently toying with Ubiquiti's EdgeRouter Lite, which is capable in theory, but no GUI support yet. Would be a fantastic piece of hardware for the job if it will work.
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O yeah, I forgot pfsense.

reply to gord27
Hmm, OK, so my WNDR 3700 v2 will not do it? That's too bad. At the time I bought it I thought there were others getting it to work.

My line is borderline capable of the 50mbit tier which is why I'm posing this question. 10mbit upload is adequate for my current uses.

I guess I'll wait to see whether I can get the 50mbit tier. Will this be an automatic upgrade for those on 25mbit or will there be a price increase?

reply to gord27
8*6? Why? Is cheaper than a straight 48 connect and you pocket the savings because of your hardware?

The problem with DSL has always been it's speed but I totally forgot about the ability to bond multiple connections together..Imagine, 2x50/10...That would probably be cheaper than a 100 dedicated.
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Re: [DSL] 2 x 25mbit mlppp still possible?

reply to gord27
I do 2 x 25/10 with a Debian box running standard x86/x64 hardware. It works fine and has capacity to spare. I suspect that an ALIX box could deal with this as well if you are looking for something small and low power.

The only problem I have right now is that with this whole 1-10% packet loss thing any sort of bonding becomes unusable as the packet loss gets multiplied by the number of links. 20% loss is just not workable so I'm running on a single link for the moment with the hopes that TSI will figure out what is going on. Before the packet loss thing started it was pretty nice.

reply to gord27
I'm not sure Linux/MLPPP or ZeroShell/MLPPP are great options at this point, they're both rather out of date. OpenWRT/MLPPP is too unreliable to consider an option (I should know, I used it for 2x25 for quite a while), although I believe Acanac may still be working on a newer version.

At this point, microtik or cisco is probably the best option, and pfsense may also work well.
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

Still no chance at this point of tempting you and DSL Ricer to update your code?
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Not really. DSL_Ricer was the developer, he never used MLPPP for anything but single line, and he hasn't been a TekSavvy customer for years now. We were lucky to get as much out of him as we did.
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Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org

reply to gord27
I used my RouterBoard RB450G for MLPPP in the past. Worked wonderfully!

reply to gord27
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I looked into some of these and they look somewhat complicated. What's the simplest/cheapest solution?

As far as I can tell I'm right on the border of being able to get 50mbit but with the promo prices it's fairly inexpensive to add a second 25mbit connection.

Routerboard is probably the simplest cheapish solution although I have no personal experience with it.

That said if you've got an old PC and a couple of NICs then setting up your own system really isn't that hard and will only cost you time. As an added bonus you'll learn new skills while you are at it.

reply to gord27
I've never used Microtik so I can't comment on that.

If you want simple, it doesn't get much simpler that an Alix with pfsense pre-installed from netgate.com

»store.netgate.com/Netgate-m1n1wa···C83.aspx

Just plug it in, log into the web UI and configure your pppoe. Be sure to get the red one.
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pfsense does MLPPP since the early 2.0 betas. Netgate ships their m1n1walls with 2.0.2, so it's in there. I use it myself.

»doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Multi-···P/MLPPP)
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