 OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | Intel Haswell Platform Faces USB 3.0 Issue: Report quote:
According to a Hardware.info report that cites an internal Intel document circulated to partners, the company's upcoming Haswell platform faces an erratum that could be fairly noticeable by end-users. The problem is confined to the platform's integrated USB 3.0 SuperSpeed host controller,....
»www.techpowerup.com/180906/Intel···ort.html |
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| I hope it's fixed before they release it.
They won't want to deal with recalls again. |
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just go with a 3rd party controller and the problem is fixed. |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | said by jchambers28:just go with a 3rd party controller and the problem is fixed.
Intel Sandy Bridge-E C1 stepping had VT-d errata that was made known before launch. I waited for it to be corrected in C2 stepping (and a slight price drop) before buying my Core i7 3930K processor and Asus P9X79 Deluxe motherboard.
I also bought an early P8P67 Pro motherboard which was recalled. I sent my board in and received a new corrected motherboard with update P67 chipset (and free Asus ear-buds of great quality gratus). I know some people who supposedly decided to keep their old board rather then RMA it and the issue can be avoided by using an add-in SATA board or an unaffected SATA onboard controller but I really don't see the logic in that,...
If you are going to pay good money why wouldn't you want a perfectly functional product without the known issues,....especially if you know of the issue in advance,....?
I mean I want the latest and greatest just like most everyone else but I also want it to work,....and work right,.... |
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| I meant to say why don't the motherboard manufactures use a 3rd party controller like they did before intel had US 3.0? |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | said by jchambers28:I meant to say why don't the motherboard manufactures use a 3rd party controller like they did before intel had US 3.0?
I'm sure some of them will but this is for higher-end solutions to increase the feature-set beyond what the chip-set is capable of. So in other words, since Z87 has 6 native Intel SATA 6G ports higher-end (more expensive) motherboards with 12 SATA 6G ports would have no choice but to go third-party for the additional functionality / connectivity,...
Same goes for USB 3.0,....
Adding components to the boards adds cost though and manufactures fight to keep costs down to increase profit. Either way the extra expense is passed on to the end customer,....
Also I personally would prefer native USB 3.0 provided by Intel,.... Ivy Bridge / Z77 has it and anything else would seem like a step backwards,... |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | reply to Octavean
quote:
Lynx Point USB 3.0 Controller Issue Correction Needs New Hardware
The issue with USB 3.0 controllers integrated into Intel's upcoming "Lynx Point" 8-series core logic can be addressed only with new hardware (modifying the silicon), according to a new Hardware.info report. Intel decided against delaying launch of the 4th generation Core "Haswell" family to address the issue, and instead opted to address it in a future revision of the chipset.
A design flaw causes devices connected to Lynx Point's integrated USB 3.0 controller to be disconnected when the system wakes up from S3 (suspend-to-RAM), forcing users to reconnect them. This could mean you'd have to mount your USB 3.0 hard-drives/flash-drives again, although no data is lost. If you're editing files stores on such a storage device, you might have to save your work before the system is put to S3 sleep.
In 2011, Intel launched its 6-series "Cougar Point" core logic that drove its first LGA1155 processors based on the "Sandy Bridge" architecture; with a faulty SATA 3 Gb/s controller, that warranted a general recall and replacement with 6-series Rev 3.0 chipset. This particular issue is classified by Intel as more of an irritant than a major flaw. It remains to be seen how it affects early adoption of the platform.
»www.techpowerup.com/181269/Lynx-···are.html |
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 KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
join:2009-02-11
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kudos:7 | So if you aren't using sleep, or aren't using external USB 3.0 drives, you're safe?
As I do neither, I may just grab a Haswell i7 K series CPU with an ASUS ROG mobo...
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| I'll be looking at Haswell as well, from a performance/heat/power draw perspective. I love my i7-980X, but damn does it churn out heat when folding  . I don't put my machines to sleep, and I currently have no USB 3.0 peripherals, so I'm not concerned about the flaw.
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KrisnatharokCaveat EmptorPremium
join:2009-02-11
Earth Orbit
kudos:7 | reply to Octavean
A possible update on the issue:
said by The Tech Report :Report: New chipset revision to fix Haswell USB 3.0 bug
by Cyril Kowaliski — 11:43 AM on March 13, 2013
Earlier this month, rumors started floating around about a USB 3.0 bug in next-gen Haswell systems. Hardware.Info, which broke the story, said the bug causes USB 3.0 devices to act up when Haswell machines awake from an S3 sleep state. The site went on to say Intel planned a new CPU stepping to fix the problem.
Well, that last part may not be accurate. Word is now that a new chipset stepping will take care of the issue. Both Hardware.Info and Fudzilla are saying so, with the former citing the latter. The citation suggests the original rumor was indeed incorrect, at least about the CPU needing a new stepping.
A chipset re-spin does sound like a more plausible fix for a USB 3.0 problem. Of course, from an end user's standpoint, the effect should be largely the same. Since Intel is reportedly proceeding with its early June launch plan, folks may have to put up with wonky USB 3.0 in the first wave of Haswell PCs.
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Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. |
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OctaveanPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-31
New York, NY
kudos:1 | Interesting,.....
6 of one and half a dozen of the other though. It'll be a bit of a wait after the release of Haswell before this is fixed in all likelihood. Perhaps not a major flaw but I can wait a little,....
My old HP EX490 MediaSmart Windows Home Server (V1 PP3) with 20TB+ of storage died recently. While I was trying to resurrect it I stepped up my plan of a backup server and nixed a dedicated specialty system to do it.
So right now its Windows Server 2012 Essentials on a Core i5 2500K / Asus P8P67 Pro / 8GB DDR3 1600 with a 2TB system drive and 3x 3TB HDDs in a single pool. I still have 2x 3TB HDDs to add along with 1x 4TB HDD. I had to modify the Intel driver to get the NIC functional.
However, I was able to resurrect the old trusty HP EX490 MediaSmart WHS. It turned out to be a simple PSU failure. First I disassembled the server then shunted pins 1 and 2 on the ATX power connector to see if it would kick on,....it didn't. Then I ordered a cheap replacement like this:
Athena Power AP-MFATX22 220W Mini ITX / Micro FLEX ATX / ATX12V Active PFC Power Supply for many HP Slimline System Upgrades/Replacement - OEM $24.99
Then I had to rewire it's standard connecter to make it pin compatible with the EX490 using this guide:
»www.mediasmartserver.net/wiki/in···r_Supply
After that the Server kicked over as if nothing had happened.
So I have the old server back and a local backup server to the first almost ready. So I'll probably just wait it out and buy a Core i7 4770K Haswell and Z87 motherboard whenever Intel fixes their little bug. |
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