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laprjns
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reply to rolfp

Re: Linux Distribution Chooser

Yikes, that's uncanny. I'm 100% Slackware. I actually run Salix, but I'm sure that it can't make that subtle distinction.


El Quintron
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reply to rolfp
Pretty excellent:

100% Kubuntu
100% Ubuntu
100% Linux Mint
95% Debian

That was pretty interesting.
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FiReSTaRT
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Gave me 100% on all of the major desktop distros lol

garywk

join:2001-03-06
Clarkston, WA
reply to rolfp
I have to sort of laugh at the results. It gave me KUbuntu as my "first" choice and Debian as my second choice. I like neither Ubuntu nor KDE. It's second choice is my actual distro of choice, but even then it gave me a qualifier that Debian might not run on my hardware. Debian unstable runs fine. It's faster than XP was as this 8 year old laptop came with XP on it.

I couldn't play a video on it without it skipping so badly the video was unwatchable with XP installed.

Videos have always played fine since installing any one of several versions of Debian, from either Sarge or Etch, I can't remember which I first installed on this laptop, on.
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Bill_MI
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reply to rolfp
Interesting..

100%... Mandriva, Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Debian, OpenSuSE, Fedora
95%... Kubuntu

Not real specific in my case.


dark_star

join:2003-11-14
Louisville
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reply to rolfp
Badly flawed, in my opinion.

I specified stable software over leading edge software, and it put me on Fedora.

It is also factually incorrect. It says that Debian has no graphical installer. Debian has had a GUI installer for a few years.


pcdebb
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100% on OpenSuSe, Mandriva, Kubuntu, Ubuntu and Linux Mint

I'm running Mint right now, tried Kubuntu and Ubuntu, never looked at Mandriva, have recently thought about trying OpenSuSe
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rolfp

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reply to dark_star
said by dark_star:

Badly flawed, in my opinion.

I specified stable software over leading edge software, and it put me on Fedora.

It is also factually incorrect. It says that Debian has no graphical installer. Debian has had a GUI installer for a few years.

There is a feedback mechanism:

Send an email to distributions at zegeniestudios dot net (or use the feedback form) if your favourite distribution is missing, distribution details are wrong, or if you want to help out translating.

I pinged the developer with a link to this thread so, hopefully, he and the chooser can benefit from these reports.


dark_star

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Regarding the Debian GUI installer, I gave feedback to him several months ago. Obviously, it wasn't acted upon.

And there is still the issue of making Fedora a 100% match, when I specified stable over leading edge software.


wmcbrine
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It's a bit out of date. For instance, it should ask, "Do you want a distro that sells you out?".
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yazdzik
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Honesdale, PA
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Dear Friends,

I have not thought about this in years, but needed to replace mobo & graphics card last week, and wondered about the options were I to need to re-install an OS.

In the old days, debian unstable provided easily complete gnome and kde, plus flux and a few others. I mean, simply, one finished the install with at least two completely working desktop environments.

Now, why is it so hard to have a distro to install, prima vista, a complete OS with both environments, without sturm and drang?

I remember knoppix at one point installed all of KDE, one could apt-get gnome and, albeit it was not a two minute download, the whole thing just worked.

Now, java only works a little in konqueror, who knows why, and anything near evolution's flexibility has yet to occur in KDE, and so on. Nothing in gnome like K3b, for that matter. Thus, all packages from both DEs, absolutely current, in an easy to install distro, should be in the realm of the possible.

Why then, simply out of curiosity, did this not happen, rather than every distro developing a particular desktop flavour? I mean really, does having "mint" or "ubuntu" come up on a gdm flash screen improve anything for anyone? Or is there some technical reason I fail to grasp? (no, I am no dbus fan, either)

In other words, what led us into the splintered DE world in which we now seem to install?

All good wishes,

M
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I don't know how it looks in "mainstream" distros, but in Arch you install the base system, run pacman -S gnome kde and you have both DEs installed. Than some quick tweak to get a login manager started automatically and you are good to go.

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I also know that you can install Xfce in Ubuntu with one apt-get because I had to use Ubuntu few months ago on one computer. I would be surprised if the same didn't work for KDE.

yazdzik
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thanks, mich

I really am considering moving to arch simply because the deb repositories are such a mish mosh nowadays, the maintainers spending at least as much time arguing about politics as getting the end user the latest relatively stable software.

installing either all of kde or gnome in any debian environment except stable will not get an entire DE, and, any attempt to use the latest, and therefore necessary flash or suchlike creates dependency issues, as not everything is always backported. Thus, some minor gtk or glib issue might create half an hour's work, as someone decided that some lib is needed, whether, indeed it be so, in a version that conflicts with something else.

At one point, seriously, gdm hauled in a new kernel via some dep. Said kernel point version did not work with the ATI proprietary driver, and x crashed! (okay, people like me check this out first and do not click apply, but many did not, and the answer was, more or less from mint and debian, "well, why do you need the latest flash, which uses a lib that requires gdm which makes the mess?" The answer was, more or less, that many sites demanded flash updated to run, just as for a while chromium bitched about outdated plugins. Thus, everyone who uses the internet needs the latest flash, for example. Unless we revert to the puritanical old days of "linux users are above using sties that are not all open source friendly" we need things to work.

Thus, I should have been more accurate: why do so few distros no include current kde and gnome with all working deps? Has the software choice become so large that such a thing is unmanageable? Arch does it well, if one can do the install without a major meltdown of temper.....

It is not that I do not admire Shuttleworth's immensely talented crew, but if dev effort were concentrated more on getting us what we need to work and play in what is, after all, still a windows world, and not worrying about whether unity desktop is a worthwhile pursuit, we might get simple again.

Or have we become way too diverse to remain simple?
Peace,
M
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I don't have these DEs fully installed atm (only Xfce plus few GNOME and KDE apps), but I doubt that there would be any conflicts between them.

And there is only one kernel package (ok, there is also a "long term support" 3.0.x package for servers and people with driver problems, but no package pulls it as dependency).