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itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Carlisle, PA

reply to swintec

Re: I'll ask the obvious..

said by swintec:

Ill ask the obvious, what was Verizon doing looking in users personal storage accounts?

Bingo. Why are they snooping on their users?

whoyourdaddy

join:2013-02-20
Honey Brook, PA

Shame On You Verizon

i wont be storing my family pictures their or ill start seeing them on their tv ads shame on u verizon for snooping on people pics not only u reported this guy. but how many other people you invaded in too??

WHT

join:2010-03-26
Rosston, TX
kudos:5

reply to itguy05

Re: I'll ask the obvious..

Uhhh...Where have you been for the last two decades?

Verizon was enforcing the "Think of the children" exception clause in the Fourth Amendment of the bill of Rights.

dagg

join:2001-03-25
Galt, CA

reply to itguy05
bu...bu...but... "for the children!!!!"

thats why


CXM_Splicer
Looking at the bigger picture
Premium
join:2011-08-11
NYC
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

reply to itguy05
Agreed. They have no reason to go through the files at all much less examine the contents. Would they also load up your spreadsheets & Bank statement PDFs to check them out? How about tax returns? What exactly are you suppose to keep in cloud storage knowing Verizon is going to go through it?

I guess since all this data is already being piped to the NSA voluntarily it should be no surprise that Verizon (and the others) have no respect for customers privacy from the get go.

Just in case anyone isn't aware, any picture or video sent as a text message can also be viewed by inquiring minds so if your honey sends you something a little risque, don't be surprised to find it on a porn site somewhere.


Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

reply to itguy05

said by itguy05:

said by swintec:

Ill ask the obvious, what was Verizon doing looking in users personal storage accounts?

Bingo. Why are they snooping on their users?

Knowing a big ISP, They were looking for good photos to use in advertising spots. I bet somewhere in the TOS/EULA you consent to Verizon using any photographs you upload use them in advertising or sharing with their advertising partners.
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Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA
Reviews:
·Frontier Communi..

reply to WHT
The Fourth Amendment does not apply to private actors, it applies to the Government. If I break into your house, discover your cache of kiddie porn, and call the police you're going directly to jail without passing go or collecting $200. The fact that I broke the law to obtain the evidence is immaterial. It only comes into play if the police do it, or if they co-opt someone into doing it on their behalf.



Thaler
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:3

reply to CXM_Splicer

said by CXM_Splicer:

What exactly are you suppose to keep in cloud storage knowing Verizon is going to go through it?

Music. Unless VZ's going to call goons on you for having poor taste in music.

CXM_Splicer
Looking at the bigger picture
Premium
join:2011-08-11
NYC
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Verizon FiOS

reply to Crookshanks

said by Crookshanks:

The Fourth Amendment does not apply to private actors, it applies to the Government. If I break into your house, discover your cache of kiddie porn, and call the police you're going directly to jail without passing go or collecting $200. The fact that I broke the law to obtain the evidence is immaterial. It only comes into play if the police do it, or if they co-opt someone into doing it on their behalf.

I can definitely attest to that being the case here in NY. When I worked as a detective in a department store, we would search the cars of people we apprehended and didn't need a warrant. We would often find that they had been loading up their car for several trips (sometimes from other stores) before we finally caught them. Sometimes the police would tell us the search was illegal but the police very often don't really know the law (as my boss often said who was a retired PD lieutenant). The evidence was always admissible.

Crookshanks

join:2008-02-04
Northeast PA
Reviews:
·Frontier Communi..

said by CXM_Splicer:

When I worked as a detective in a department store, we would search the cars of people we apprehended and didn't need a warrant.

Brave man to apprehend people as a private citizen in NYS. I'm from there you know, and NYS has one of the narrowest citizen arrest laws in the country. Doesn't take much to expose yourself to criminal charges, never mind the civil liability.

As an aside, you wouldn't be searching my car or taking me into custody without having one hell of a fight on your hands. Doubt you would have tried that without probable cause, which you would not have with me because I'm not a thief. That said, one of my pet peeves are the self important "bag checkers" at big box stores. I don't even break stride when they ask to search my property, and the one that was stupid enough to chase me backed down real quick when I pulled out the pepper spray.

I understand the need for loss prevention but most places don't even approach it logically. I got a real kick out having to track down an employee at K-Mart to buy an eight pack of razor cartridges. The eight packs were behind the locked loss prevention device, but the more expensive (per unit) four packs were right below it without any such protection. If that isn't absurd enough, they wouldn't let me put the eight pack in my cart and continue shopping. It was either pay for it right then and there, or we'll hold it for you at the electronics counter as a "courtesy".

Gotta love being treated like a criminal over a $18.99 pack of Quattro Pro cartridges. I've purchased firearms with less hassle than that pack of razor cartridges.

Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
Reviews:
·Charter

reply to whoyourdaddy

Re: Shame On You Verizon

said by whoyourdaddy:

i wont be storing my family pictures their or ill start seeing them on their tv ads shame on u verizon for snooping on people pics not only u reported this guy. but how many other people you invaded in too??

Go and read their ToS. Its explained that anything you store there, they have the rights to view and monitor. This was pointed out in the reddit thread, 3 days ago.

Chubbysumo

join:2009-12-01
Superior, WI
Reviews:
·Charter

reply to CXM_Splicer

Re: I'll ask the obvious..

said by CXM_Splicer:

Agreed. They have no reason to go through the files at all much less examine the contents. Would they also load up your spreadsheets & Bank statement PDFs to check them out? How about tax returns? What exactly are you suppose to keep in cloud storage knowing Verizon is going to go through it?

I guess since all this data is already being piped to the NSA voluntarily it should be no surprise that Verizon (and the others) have no respect for customers privacy from the get go.

Just in case anyone isn't aware, any picture or video sent as a text message can also be viewed by inquiring minds so if your honey sends you something a little risque, don't be surprised to find it on a porn site somewhere.

Read the Verizon backup ToS, its written in there that they can view anything you store on it.

Markie

join:2003-07-26
Kalispell, MT

reply to Crookshanks
Which is why Kmart's... Kmart. Though my biggest issue at Kmart is the fact that they hire mentally handicapped people for cashiers. I think it's GREAT finding work that people can do within their abilities. Being a cashier is NOT within their abilities. Speed is of the essence and hiring someone who can't work quickly and efficiently... makes a very frustrating experience. Being one of only a few people in the store and still having to take 10 minutes to checkout is NOT on my to do list. Thus, Kmart isn't on my shopping list.


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