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| requested and received refund..... .... long time fan of Sim City, have played it since I was ten years old and got the SNES copy for Christmas. Met a lot of great people through an old majordomo mailing list that I found in a book about SC2K. Stayed through 3000 and 4000 even though they never quite hooked me like SC2K did.
Bought this game against my better judgment, considering the always on DRM. Should have done my homework better, because it's way more obnoxious than simply DRM that phones home at launch. I can't even save my single player game to my hard drive? It has to go to the cloud and I lose it if the server I started it on is too busy and I have to connect to a different one?
Jesus Christ, I'm a software developer and can really appreciate how much piracy stinks when you pour your sweat equity into something, but this is so far over the top it's not even funny. They purposefully moved into the cloud something that is essentially a single player game, all in the name of preventing piracy. The thought that someone might want to play the game on an airplane, train ride, cabin in the woods, etc, apparently never occurred to them. Or more likely they just didn't care.
Disappointment does not even begin to describe it. They gave me a refund without any hassle, though I had to wait over two hours to get an agent in their online chat. I highly encourage everybody who is likewise disappointed to pursue a refund now, before they change their mind and stop offering them. | |
|   Simba7I Void Warranties
join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Re: requested and received refund..... Glad I didn't jump in. I take my G53SX everywhere and play games without issues. Steam lets me go offline, which is really cool.
This is just beyond a headache. If your connection ever goes down, you're SOL. I don't know how many times my DSL connection has gone wonky at random times. These companies rely on the cloud too damn much, and it's getting freakin' irritating. Now, if we all had fiber connections.. but that would require network investment, and no one wants to do that.
I'll save my money unless they can create an offline update to this.
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·Frontier Communi..
| Re: requested and received refund..... Eh, FTTH is going to go down just as much as current technology. It's actually more vulnerable to certain problems (power outages) than copper technologies like POTS. You're never going to have a bulletproof internet connection at residential pricing. Hell, dedicated commercial connections aren't even bulletproof, the more expensive ones just come with an SLA that promises a priority dispatch (in theory) for repairs and a refund if certain uptime metrics aren't met.
I really don't hate DRM from a philosophical standpoint, but this is simply over the top and absurd. Microsoft implements a form of DRM in Windows that has precious little effect on functionality. They did not turn the operating system into a glorified dumb terminal in the name of preventing piracy. Do people still pirate it? Yep. Do they get full functionality? Nope. Are these the same people that would have paid for it if it was impossible to pirate? Not likely, they'd simply use an older version, Linux, or BSD.
I was perfectly willing to part with my hard earned cash for this game. Should have known better. At least I was able to get a refund without too much hassle. Failing that my next move was going to be a credit card charge back for goods not received. | |
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join:2003-03-24
Billings, MT | Re: requested and received refund..... said by Crookshanks:They did not turn the operating system into a glorified dumb terminal in the name of preventing piracy. That is.. pretty much how I feel Windows 8 is. | |
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| Re: requested and received refund..... I haven't had the (mis)fortune of working with it yet, waiting for my employer to get our free internal use licenses before I start mucking around with it. From what I've seen it's a great interface for tablets and phones, but a horrible one if you have a PC and want to use a keyboard and mouse in the traditional sense.
It's either going to be a Windows ME/Vista flop for them or completely change the paradigm of personal computing. I'm betting on the former, if for no other reason than I see it failing miserably in the business world. Windows 7 is the best OS I've ever seen in a business setting, from every conceivable metric (speed, stability, ease of use, room for growth....) and I don't see how Windows 8 will displace it. | |
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| Re: requested and received refund..... Windows 8 is not that bad, quit listening to the hysteria. It's a start screen instead of a start bar, and on a pc it works like if you have the star bar to auto hide.
Windows 8 is also faster at loading, uses lesser resources, and runs games a few fps faster.
It's not going to change anything, but it's also not what the loonies try to make it out to be. | |
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| Re: requested and received refund..... There's no "hysteria" on my part, I work in IT, supporting businesses ranging from cheap costume jewelry resellers to national law firms and medical conglomerates. The vast majority of third party applications used by these businesses are not certified to run on Windows 8. There is no history -- good or bad -- on which to base a recommendation regarding Windows 8 to a commercial customer. Even when these issues are resolved, there will be training and migration costs to consider, which may range from insignificant to substantial, but will always be a non-zero sum for even the smallest business.
I've been doing this for more than 20 years, working with every conceivable flavor of DOS, Windows, and Unix. The biggest takeaway I've had from doing business with Microsoft is you stay away from their new releases for mission critical applications until SP1 is released. There's a difference between a home user who "relies" on his system for a few extra FPS and a business that loses money with every second of downtime.
As I said, I will be playing around with it as soon as I can get a free license (legally, one of the perks of working for a major Microsoft reseller), but it will be sometime before I start deploying it at any of my clients. | |
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·Charter
| Re: requested and received refund..... Yes, and the home users are the ones with hysteria over a minor windows change. You don't need to explain the difference between home and business, that's pretty self explanatory.
Although Gabe Newell was certainly hysterical over the idea that Microsoft has a (competing) store. | |
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| Re: requested and received refund..... Apparently I do need to explain it, since you dismissed my post with some nonsense about video game frame rates.
It will go to one of the two extremes I've stated, a UI paradigm change or the next ME. Frankly I'm not making bets either way until I get my hands on it. The boys at Microsoft can be pretty damned clever, but they can be equally obtuse, and it's a coin toss as to which outcome you get with them. | |
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·Charter
| Re: requested and received refund..... said by Crookshanks:Apparently I do need to explain it, since you dismissed my post with some nonsense about video game frame rates.
It will go to one of the two extremes I've stated, a UI paradigm change or the next ME. Frankly I'm not making bets either way until I get my hands on it. The boys at Microsoft can be pretty damned clever, but they can be equally obtuse, and it's a coin toss as to which outcome you get with them.
I was mentioning some of the things Windows 8 does better. Maybe you need to learn to read while being condescending. I also mentioned other things so before you go off mentioning your 20 years in IT you should go back and re read them. | |
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·Charter
| Anyway, you are either trying to be condescending here, or you haven't spent very much time in any tech forums whenever there's a new Windows version. A business has to have compatibility, that much is obvious, as well as reasons to upgrade. And it costs money to teach employees new things.
As far as the consumer side, for Windows 8, people freaked out over Microsoft having a store (They think it means Microsoft will now force people to download only from the store :\ ). They show that stupid as hell good bad windows version picture that keeps out about 10 windows versions, as a reason why Windows 8 will be bad (And they did this before windows 8 came out, so overreaction much?). People do this over reactionary retarded shit every time a new Windows come out. It's like a new windows comes out and everyone acts emotional with no intelligence whatsoever.. | |
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join:2002-01-27
Kansas City, MO
kudos:2 | I think this is more about moving processing into the cloud, than DRM. This let's them make it more complex on simple machines (like the ipad, android, windowsRT).
The down side is our pc version is just a window into cloud game processing (dumb client) instead of the standalone we used to get with SimCity (local processing). | |
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