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kingdome74
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Re: [Parts Check] Looking For Mobo

LOL, I thought you meant Nova as in Villinova and I'm thinking, "they don't like us Syracuse fans much in Philly"

I'll wait. I'm sure the prices on all the Ivy related stuff should start falling fairly soon.
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I wonder how much prices are elevated because, for those lucky enough to get one anyway, it's tax refund time?
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Microcenter often has deep discounts on newly released processors as well. So it's perfectly conceivable that Intel Haswell based processors will be sold there for significantly less then Newegg and other online stores. With any luck the 4770K might even sell for the same price the 3770K is selling for now at ~$229.99 USD.

I recently, just today in fact at about 2:00PM, had a significant hardware failure. It seems to be the PSU on my HP EX490. So after some time I figured I might just turn it into a new build and order an Ivy Bridge Core i7 3770K and Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TB motherboard or GA-Z77X-UP4 TB.

Microcenter is like 25min away in good traffic.

However, instead I'll probably just nix / dismantle my old Intel Core i5 2500K / ASUS P8P67 Pro build and install Windows server 2012 Essentials on it after I rebuild it with the necessary storage I need for a server.

I'll then wait for intel Haswell or possibly Ivy Bridge-E so I can replace the Core i5 2500K / ASUS P8P67 Pro system. I might still go for a 3770K but if I do it would be due to even lower prices after its successor is released.



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What kind of after-market heatsink/fan do you use?



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Me,....

I have three or four Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus units. These are reasonably good and cheap (~$20). I also have a ThermalRight HR-01 and a ThermalRight Ultra 90.



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said by kingdome74:

What kind of after-market heatsink/fan do you use?

Corsair H60.
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I also have the H60. I don't know if it cools any better than the Hyper-212, but it sure is easier to clean! Don't seem to have to clean as often too, and what large pieces of dust does accumulate, peals off like a little mini-carpet.

I fold with this CPU, (run it @ 100%, 24/7/365) and I also think it provides even cooling, (less temperature spikes) than an air-cooled HSF.



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I haven't even considered using water cooling because I just assumed that it was out of my price range and I don't have a fish tank handy. Newegg has the H60 for $60 and considering from what I'm reading the i7's run a little warm it looks like an excellent solution because I may start crunching again once spring gets here in about 6 months
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They do run a bit on the warm side, and the H60 is good insurance.......especially for that price!!

One nice thing about the i7. It will "throttle back" when it starts approaching TJ max temp. It kinda has a built-in self-protection feature that can really help save that expensive Intel chip!!



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That's definitely great for crunching when your cranking that chip up for long periods of time. One of the reasons why I'm thinking of crunching again is these newer chips don't use nearly the same amounts of electricity that they used to.
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Besides $40 can someone tell me the difference between these two chips?

»www.newegg.com/Product/Productco···24%24%24



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said by kingdome74:

Besides $40 can someone tell me the difference between these two chips?

»www.newegg.com/Product/Productco···24%24%24

"K" version means it's unlocked and can be overclocked. If you have no intention of OC'ing, then just go with the regular locked version and save the 40 bucks.


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The 3770K has 100mhz more operating frequency.



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said by Krisnatharok:

The 3770K has 100mhz more operating frequency.

Ah, didn't know that. Good catch.


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Yeah, 3.4 to 3.5... my bet would be that in most circumstances that the difference would be undetectable.
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said by Krisnatharok:

said by kingdome74:

How are the graphics on the 4000 for gaming? I know Intel says it's great but what are they going to say? It sucks? I have the 2000 on my i3 2100 and renders video well enough but I don't do any gaming on it. Mostly I play WoW but I do play the newer shooter games through their single player parts.

It's unsuitable. Get a discrete GPU.

I agree, and for that reason I would recommend building a system around an Ivy Bridge-based Xeon processor, such as the E3-1230.
»www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as···19117286

All the benefits of an i7 (minus the useless GPU, which means lower wattage as well) for 2/3 the cost. Plus they come with a more-than-good-enough heatsink and fan, further reducing the cost.

Throw it on a nice Z77 MB like this one and you're golden!
»www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as···13130646


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You can still use the iGPU to drive a second monitor without taxing your main GPU. It also can accelerate hardware encoding, I believe.

But yeah, for someone who would normally pay $320 from Newegg for the 3770K, this isn't a bad choice. The Intel Xeon E3-1230 V2 does have a locked processor, however, so you can't OC it very much.

The 3770K is still available for $220 from Microcenter, however.
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said by Krisnatharok:

You can still use the iGPU to drive a second monitor without taxing your main GPU. It also can accelerate hardware encoding, I believe.

I've tried running a second monitor off the integrated GPU on a different intel processor and it didn't run as well as running the second monitor off the discrete GPU. Hardware acceleration is highly dependant on the third-party drivers, and my experience hasn't been positive with that either. At best it didn't change anything. At worst it blue screened.

said by Krisnatharok:

The 3770K is still available for $220 from Microcenter, however.

The E3-1230 is $199, $30 cheaper than the 3770k ($229)


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Are there unlocked Xeon's?

Tom's had this board the best of the price class it was in:

»www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a···13130643

I like the idea of reliability. Is it worth the price?
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Duh, I just noticed the one I posted is the same as the other MSI posted except with more ports.
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