| Hulu/Netflix SNL no music guests WTF is this? Decided to watch SNL from the 90's. Didn't even think about the musical guests till I heard musical guest Faith No More, Sweeet! Well nothing. Fuckers cut it out, copyright issues.
Torrent it is then....
You know the internet has been commercially viable since 1999, and they wonder why people don't wait and get their entertainment from pirate sites. |
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 A LurkerPremium
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Burlington, ON | Try finding old WKRP with the original music. I'd easily pay for DVDs with the orig music, but with licensing it's unlikely we'll ever see them. |
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kudos:1 | Unfortunately, some artists (or more specifically their labels) were asking outrageous prices for re-use of their music in any home video release of WKRP. Some quotes were in the thousands of dollars for just a few seconds.
The only thing we can hope for is that someone finds at the very least the original broadcast tapes of the show, and releases them on file sharing services. I'm aware it isn't a legit way to go, but it's the only way left to preserve the show in history.
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 elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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HarperLand | A lot of it was short term thinking on the production company. They licensed the music for "broadcast" but not DVD's, not expecting the show to be the massive hit it was.
1.5yrs before Milnoc plays steamboat Willie on his 'station' |
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kudos:1 | Actually, 3.75 years. Disney died in 1966. The copyright expires in January of 2017. 
Don't know what the status of my channel will be by then. 
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| It's funny you should mention this. I was sick at home yesterday and watched two SNL episodes from the '80s (both were Eddie Murphy as the host). One was 48 minutes long, and the other was (get this) 38 minutes long (this is the one with Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood with Eddie Murphy in a santa costume). No trace of the musical guests. |
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elwoodbluesElwood BluesPremium
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Americans are moving to copyright in perpetuity. They're up to 120yrs now, how much longer before they embrace a life time one? |
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It's not just the musical guests that are missing. A bunch of the skits are missing from each episode too.
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said by A Lurker:Try finding old WKRP with the original music. If you're have an OTA antenna and can receive channel 2.2 from Buffalo, you can watch old WKRP episodes. And I could have sworn the last ones I saw still had the original music (one scene had Venus in the dj booth and I distinctly heard Kool and the Gang playing in the background).
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kudos:1 | It's not too hard to pick up the music swaps. You can tell by how incredibly unnatural the replacement music sounds when compared with the ambient sound of the scene itself. The tone is thrown way off.
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I started watching the Kathleen Turner episode season 15 and it was ONLY 15Min long. That is a joke. |
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said by mr weather:I could have sworn the last ones I saw still had the original music Yea, some TV stations still air shows with the original music. You can sometimes find SD rips of TV shows online that are better quality with the original music than what you'd buy in a boxed set at a store.
Quantum Leap after season 1 is one such show I can think of off the top of my head because there's episodes where the music is an integral part of the episode but it's not there so you're thinking something's off but you're not sure what. |
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So this is how sad the media/music companies are. After trying to see if I there are dvd sets for SNL with full skits and musical guests I read this little jem " No subsequent releases are planned for the near future, as acquiring the rights to the musical acts has become too expensive"
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sa···releases
Holly fuck how greedy can you get. You really need that money from some act done 20-30 years ago on tv?
I guess time to boycott more media. I've haven't gone to the movies since before Iron Man 2 also I have been cable free for a couple of months. |
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I think you're looking for this:
»amzn.to/Y4cg51
Enjoy! |
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said by analog andy:Holly fuck how greedy can you get. You really need that money from some act done 20-30 years ago on tv?
It is how people make a living. Is there a problem?
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| said by DKS:said by analog andy:Holly fuck how greedy can you get. You really need that money from some act done 20-30 years ago on tv?
It is how people make a living. Is there a problem? Absolutely - if they want to make a living they should need to keep creating. Copyright on music should run out after 10 years. You've reaped your rewards at that time - let your creation become public at that time. You want to keep making money from your music? Keep making music - 10 years is long enough to milk a creation. I do work for my company - I design things - I get paid for the design I'm doing while I'm doing it -- once they go into production, I have to go and design new things if I want to keep my job and keep getting paid - they aren't going to pay me residuals on every unit they sell made from my design....
The worst part is the royalty checks the artists get from these things is miniscule compared to the license fees anyway - it does nothing but stifle the original product's value.
For example - since we're talking SNL - there's musical guests on every episode. They do the episode more for promotion and getting their face in front of people than anything. They get paid - and they get royalty checks every time that same episode airs again (in repeat/syndication/etc.) - now 15 years later NBC wants to put out a box set of that season's episodes. The company holding the rights to the music (lets say it's Warner since they are a competitor of NBC) says "Sure you can make that box set - every episode we have music on we want $500,000 for the music rights" (that comes out to say 14 episodes for the season) - NBC now needs to pony up $7 million to Warner. They might sell 300,000 of those box sets - $20 of every set needs to go to Warner. Add this to the $20 that needs to go to EMI, $20 to Universal (that's a wash since it's NBC anyway).. now the $70 box set has $60 in music rights fees. That's a fail. Oh and of that $500,000 per episode? maybe $25,000 will go to the artist. |
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| said by Hydraglass:....now 15 years later NBC wants to put out a box set of that season's episodes. The company holding the rights to the music (lets say it's Warner since they are a competitor of NBC) says "Sure you can make that box set - every episode we have music on we want $500,000 for the music rights" (that comes out to say 14 episodes for the season) - NBC now needs to pony up $7 million to Warner....
Exactly the problem.
And in that example, Warner are being STUPID because they end up with NOTHING instead!
The greed of the music companies means that they have priced themselves out of the market, so everyone loses.
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| said by Gershom 1624:Exactly the problem.
And in that example, Warner are being STUPID because they end up with NOTHING instead!
The greed of the music companies means that they have priced themselves out of the market, so everyone loses.
But that's the archaic mentality of the industry, if we don't get our proverbial pound of flesh, then we aren't interested in doing a deal.
The other issue is the nearly perpetual copyright in the US and if CETA goes through up here, will push it from 50yrs after death to 70.
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Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, QC | reply to Hydraglass
you're right. In fact, the music industry has more protection on their product than the Pharmaceutical industry. Their patents generally expire in approximately 10 to 12 years. |
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