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antdude
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Fb Privacy Study Shows Why You Gave Up On Keeping Your Data

»www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/0···535.html from »www.bluesnews.com/s/139693/morni···ty-dance ...

"While we've always known that Facebook has the final say in how people use its service, a new study reveals just how effectively the social network can nudge its members to behave in ways Facebook might consider most fitting..."
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StuartMW
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FB can "nudge" me any way it wants--since I don't and won't have a FB account. May as well record everything I say and do and send it to Bob.
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Because if something (even an utter BS) will be repeated hundreds of times, people start to believe that and that's exactly what FB wants...
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siljaline
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Can't wait for the new newsfeed ? Sign-up here



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Never had an account and never will. One day, it's one thing with them, and the next day, another. I am sure that I heard a blurb yesterday on TV that they are now going to start charging for comments. If I heard correctly, that's just another nail in FB's coffin IMHO.



Dude111
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Same here!!!!!!!!



Blackbird
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Re: Fb Privacy Study Shows Why You Gave Up On Keeping Your Data

said by StuartMW:

... May as well record everything I say and do and send it to Bob.

We can arrange that...
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StuartMW
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said by Blackbird:

We can arrange that...

Thanks but I think Bob is doing just fine without any help
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siljaline
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If I had known (which I do now) - that this thread would turn into an anti social networking rant, I'm not sure I would have posted to it.



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said by siljaline:

If I had known (which I do now) - that this thread would turn into an anti social networking rant, I'm not sure I would have posted to it.

Why?

The web isn't a static entity. TOS change, features change, and not just on FB. Security is an ongoing process, not a one-time decision.

I see no rants here. Some people like social networking, others see risks. FB has repeatedly and publicly pushed their ideals on users. Surely that's worthy of discussion and contemplation by users, pro and con.


Dude111
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Why buddy??

These sites ARE BAD and are a tool for the elite to spy on people!

Why does it bother you to have the truth about them posted??


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Re: Fb Privacy Study Shows Why You Gave Up On Keeping Your Data

This seems like a classis piece of not responding to the issue:

said by some facebook guy :

"Independent research has verified that the vast majority of the people on Facebook are engaging with and using our straightforward and powerful privacy tools -- allowing them to control what they're sharing, and with whom they're sharing," he wrote.

So, the issue is "more people are choosing to share their crap as a result of facebook pushing them in that direction". How is "users are using the controls we give them" an answer to that?

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Re:  

said by Dude111:

These sites ARE BAD and are a tool for the elite to spy on people!

Who are these "elite" that you mindlessly talk about every chance you get?


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Re: Fb Privacy Study Shows Why You Gave Up On Keeping Your Data

Focusing on the original topic, I suspect the root issue is normal user ignorance (not said as a slur, but as a description of a simple lack of knowledge and perspective). Many social network users fail to understand the potential ways that various elements of seemingly innocuous information can be assembled, cross-correlated, and successfully mined or abused. Consequently, they fail to grasp the implications of various details of privacy protection.

Giving such users more detailed privacy-setting choices actually gives them more opportunity for misunderstanding what they're doing, and more risk of making certain important settings out of ignorance. All this, while it provides to such users the descriptive illusion that they're "in control". But if they don't understand what the various settings can and cannot do and what the various privacy details may actually expose and not expose, there's no way they're truly "in control." And there are social network operators more than willing to exploit this kind of ignorance to enhance their bottom lines, particularly because data-mining of users is how their real money is made.

"Choice" can be a wonderful thing, but only if one has an understanding of what the various choices really represent. Moreover, in the presence of ignorance, "Choice" can be more easily manipulated to make poor choices sound as if they're good.
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My remarks were somewhat tongue-in-cheek
edit:
Facebook's • »www.facebook.com/about/newsfeed was supposed to launch "all new" (today) or in the next few days
• »www.facebook.com/about/graphsearch Graph Search will also change the whole landscape of how Facebook behaves and invades your privacy.



siljaline
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Re:  

said by dave:

Who are these "elite" that you mindlessly talk about every chance you get?

I could not have said that better myself.


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said by dave:

Who are these "elite" that you mindlessly talk about every chance you get?

As George Carlin famously said..."it's a big club, and you ain't in it!"

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q

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Re: Fb Privacy Study Shows Why You Gave Up On Keeping Your Data

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