 | [Voip.ms] CallerID filter not working voip,ms one of the providers offering caller block, but I find it is not always doing the job. I've posted this before, not sure what the outcome was; probably similar to the phone service, "you're paying peanuts, what you complaining about...".
Been getting that fake 800 call purpurtedly from RBC |
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 fparker join:2008-04-28 Scarborough, ON | what are you entering for your callerid filter? |
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 | reply to hockeynomad I've never had any problems with the caller id filtering. I've used it to block calls and more recently to whitelist callers after implementing an IVR. |
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 | reply to hockeynomad [System] Message No Service |
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 fparker join:2008-04-28 Scarborough, ON | How are you filtering out the undesired caller? What are you entering for the DID filter? |
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 | reply to hockeynomad I use enter 800* and 1800* to filter all 800 calls and it works fine for me. |
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 MartinMVoIP.msPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 | reply to hockeynomad We have no such things as features that are supposed to half work because they are free. 
More details would be appreciated, like how the filter rule was configured and the exact callerid that passed through it without being blocked.
Thanks -- Martin - VoiP.ms |
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| reply to hockeynomad
maybe try filters like this to block just 1800 #'s 1800XXXXXXX 800XXXXXXX
or to block all 8XX numbers
800XXXXXXX 855XXXXXXX 866XXXXXXX 877XXXXXXX 888XXXXXXX
1800XXXXXXX 1855XXXXXXX 1866XXXXXXX 1877XXXXXXX 1888XXXXXXX |
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 | Skip the '1' at the start. Replace it with '*'. It will cover cases where the '1' is sent with the caller id or not. |
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| reply to hockeynomad I've had this happen with one number - I think it wasn't a toll-free number. I opened a ticket and they suggested I switch to the toronto server. At the time I was on montreal, and that was shortly after the software upgrade. I tried a couple of things with no luck, then switched to toronto. Hasn't happened since. Weird. -- Start Communications Forum |
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 MartinMVoIP.msPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 | said by MichelR: I opened a ticket and they suggested I switch to the toronto server. At the time I was on montreal, and that was shortly after the software upgrade. I tried a couple of things with no luck, then switched to toronto. Hasn't happened since. Weird. Indeed, there's no need to switch server this feature takes the CallerID number and compares with what is in the database.
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There was no ticket and there's no problems we're aware of at the moment, I asked someone to open a ticket for you. Thanks -- Martin - VoiP.ms |
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 1 edit | not prepared to block all 8** at this time, some are legit, but its a thought.
Martin, am following up on ticket. |
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 | said by hockeynomad:not prepared to block all 8** at this time, some are legit, but its a thought. Well, no one should block all 8** because 807 is Ontario, 819 is Quebec, and so forth.
But even in terms of blocking [800, 855, 866, 877, 888] numbers, one CAN make a case for this....
....If not blocking, at least sending them to voicemail.
Because as this fellow says:
When a toll free number shows up on your caller id, its not there because the caller is calling you on a toll free number. Toll Free Numbers CANT make outbound calls....
When a toll free number shows up on your caller ID, it means that the caller is calling from a larger phone system that allows the caller to program the caller ID information. So do NOT take this as proof that the caller is actually connected with that number or that this number will reach the same people. It is against the regulations to program someone elses number into the caller ID information, but that obviously doesnt phase the people that are involved with any type of scam.
Just because they have a toll free number on their caller ID certainly doesnt prove theyre doing anything nefarious, but it does tell you that they are probably in some type of call center and are often telemarketers.... »www.tollfreenumbers.com/blogs/to···-id.html |
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 | reply to Plodder said by Plodder :Skip the '1' at the start. Replace it with '*'. It will cover cases where the '1' is sent with the caller id or not. Unfortunately, this will also filter out numbers like 6132888510. |
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 fparker join:2008-04-28 Scarborough, ON | why would that be? |
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| reply to hockeynomad I've encountered a problem with VoIP.ms filtering. The problem is with filter ordering. To make a long story short: All calls from 636XXXXXXX get pushed through to my main account (I use a whitelist / blacklist method). However, if I blacklist 636555XXXX or 6365551111, the calls are allowed through anyway. Rather than processing the filter rules from most specific to least (think like iptables, firewalls, or logic), it is doing the opposite.
I never did hear back from voip.ms on this issue.
Is it possible you have a less specific rule that is being processed before this one? -- If someone refers to herself / himself as a "guru", they probably aren't. |
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| reply to fparker Because *888* rule will filter 6132888510; * is replacing 1 or more digits. Instead is better to have 2 rules for each 8xx number how was already posted, in this case for 888 will be: 888XXXXXXX 1888XXXXXXX |
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 MartinMVoIP.msPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 | reply to hockeynomad After investigation, it seem the filter worked properly. The call is in the CDR because you configured the system to answer/playback "Message No Service". The call was not sent to you, but it's normal it shows up in the CDR. If you do not want the system to pick the call, select "busy"
-- Martin - VoiP.ms |
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 MartinMVoIP.msPremium,VIP join:2008-07-21 | reply to nunya said by nunya:I've encountered a problem with VoIP.ms filtering. The problem is with filter ordering. To make a long story short: All calls from 636XXXXXXX get pushed through to my main account (I use a whitelist / blacklist method). However, if I blacklist 636555XXXX or 6365551111, the calls are allowed through anyway. Rather than processing the filter rules from most specific to least (think like iptables, firewalls, or logic), it is doing the opposite.
I never did hear back from voip.ms on this issue.
Is it possible you have a less specific rule that is being processed before this one? We're open to suggestion on the way we sort the result match. Iptables doesn't sort on "most specific" to "least specific". It's just a set of rules.
What do you suggest we sort the order, by length/numerical? It could be done easily. -- Martin - VoiP.ms |
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 | reply to hockeynomad Martin -- tangentially related, would it be possible to implement some sort of phone book group system?
I'm thinking of Callcentric's filtering. I can create a group of numbers in my phone book, and then filter the group. Instead of having individual filters for each spam number I want to send to no service, there could be a single rule.
Just a thought. |
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