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Dalionath

join:2013-03-06
Dsl De Saint-Andre, NB

Gaming computer

Hi, i am looking for a computer that would cost 800$ to 1000$ that i would be able to play world of warcraft in hard graphic and like be able to play games like skyrim, i would totally love to try battlefields games also.

Thx for helping



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So everyone knows, the present discussion »[Theory] Computer for wow :D got a little too off-track, so I suggested that Dalionath See Profile post over here.
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Here's a sample build for you. I assume you do not have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, or Operating System, so I made space in the budget for that. If that's not true, let me know and I can readjust.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($122.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($165.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Tachyon 550W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Dell E2311H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech M500 Wired Laser Mouse ($25.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $1001.99
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-08 08:43 EST-0500)
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Dalionath

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i got mouse, and screen keyboard kinda not working right so would need a new keyboard, but thx alot kris this looks promising



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Equivalent AMD build--the i3-3220 and the AMD FX-4170 are pretty equivalent at this pricepoint, but the AMD chip is quad-core, and future games may perform better on it--food for thought.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-4170 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($72.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($165.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Tachyon 550W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Dell E2311H 23.0" Monitor ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Logitech M500 Wired Laser Mouse ($25.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $984.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-08 08:49 EST-0500)
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Krisnatharok
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said by Dalionath:

i got mouse, and screen keyboard kinda not working right so would need a new keyboard, but thx alot kris this looks promising

Can you get a free copy of Windows? I would think Microsoft has a Home User Program for its own employees...
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Dalionath

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microsoft is not that generus :P, because they dont give us anything, they dont even give raises, people that been working here 10 years and they never had bonuses :P


Dalionath

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im thinking of going a little bit more intel, i know it cost a little bit more but with my experience intel is less to burn or overheat on you, then amd is



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So taking out the monitor, I was able to upgrade you to a kickass quad-core i5 CPU, bump up the GPU to a Radeon 7870, and sub out the 1TB HDD for a 250 GB SSD. Since you said you are primarily playing WoW, the SSD should be more than big enough to hold your OS and 4-5 main games.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($149.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($58.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill Tachyon 550W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm QuickFire Rapid Wired Gaming Keyboard ($64.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $989.85
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-08 08:59 EST-0500)
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Damn, for $1000, this is one powerful rig. What I would plan for eventually is a mechanical hard disk, but the 250 GB SSD is more than spacious enough to serve you for now.
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Dalionath

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yes i really love this build , and its really affordable i could almost get a piece each check , plus in may i have 3 checks in the month :P



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Wait a day or two and see if anyone comes up with something better.


Dalionath

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yes i will wait for sure , i have a case at home but its not a big one tought it from a original computer i was thinking of stripping it cleaning it right up and maybe use it until i get better also


Dalionath

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reply to Krisnatharok

i actually thoke a look at the computer case kris and it looks like the one i got but the one i got is old and old fashion lol



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said by Dalionath:

im thinking of going a little bit more intel, i know it cost a little bit more but with my experience intel is less to burn or overheat on you, then amd is

AMD is no more likely to fry than any other CPU.
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Dalionath

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but AMD as fried more then intel when overheated :P



CylonRed
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Not in the last oh - 10+ years...


Dalionath

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i was in college last year and we did a project intel vs amd, did you know amd is a reverse hardware of intel? amd started from taking intel and remaking it to do amd, you can look it up if you dont believe me :P



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I am WELL aware of AMD's old history - been running AMD for - oh - going on about 16 years. AMD's architecture is now very different than the reversed engineered days when AMD's were very hot. Back with the P4 - AMD actually ran cooler than the P4's and now they are pretty comparable in heat production...
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Dalionath

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i understand i guess im more into intel then amd, everybody has a opinion



Krisnatharok
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said by Dalionath:

everybody has a opinion

But not every opinion is valid. I have no problem catering a build to your preferences, but don't expect that opinion of AMD CPUs to hold any water against any remotely educated PC hardware enthusiast.
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Dalionath

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i know but i never overclock my stuff so idk annyway...


Dalionath

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kris would there be a amd that would be equal or better then the intel you did for me?



CylonRed
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5th post of this thread for the i3. Don't think AMD has anything comparable to the i5.



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said by Dalionath:

kris would there be a amd that would be equal or better then the intel you did for me?

The FX-4170 is equivalent to the i3-3220. At no other price point is there a competitive AMD product.

That said, however, initial tests show the AMD FX-8300 besting all but the most expensive ($1000 level) Intel CPUs at Crysis 3, which loves multicore processors. »Crysis 3 CPU Benchmarks: Vengeance of Multi-Core

The latest CPU match up is here--feel free to read and ask any questions you may have on it: »Tom's Bargain Gaming CPU Matchup: February 2013
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said by CylonRed:

5th post of this thread for the i3. Don't think AMD has anything comparable to the i5.

Yeah, the Phenom II X6 1100T. If you can find one.

The FX-8350 nearly matches the 1100T in performance, but it is $200 online ($170 in-store at Microcenter), so it's another notch up the price scale.
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Dalionath

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ok thx kris that was really helpfull



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said by Dalionath:

ok thx kris that was really helpful

The Intel Core 500/600/700/800/900 chips were roughly equal and in direct competition with AMD's Phenom II X4 and X6 chips.

Once Intel released Sandy Bridge (Intel Core 2000 series), AMD did a face-plant with its Bulldozer architecture. Bulldozer was actually a slide backward, and performed worse than AMD's own Phenom IIs. Then Intel released Ivy Bridge (Intel Core 3000 series), which increased the delta between AMD and Intel. AMD came out with slightly more powerful Piledriver versions of its FX chips, which put them back on par with the Phenom IIs, and in some cases surpassing them when overclocked.

That said, the 8350 is an attractive option at $170. Makes me wish there were better AMD motherboards out there.
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Dalionath

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very interessting


Dalionath

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well yesterday i just fuck up my laptop.. :S its completly fried so i will be building a computer in a couple of weeks probably i hope so lol