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Mele20
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What's this?

What are these funny little icons on login here now on IE 10? Is that an eye next to the password? There is one on Username box also but you can't see it because the focus, when I took the screenshot, was on the password field. The User name icon is just an x and if you click on it then what you typed is erased.

The one for Password, if I click on it, exposes my Password in plaintext.

Hmm...apparently this is something new on IE. It's on any login boxes on any site!Better not click on the password "eye" if you are not alone as someone could see your password.

StuartMW
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I'd guess that it's a mechanism to delete (and maybe save) usernames/passswords.

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I think it's the all seeing eye from the Total Information Awareness thing they floated a few years ago, now being embedded into the browser.

StuartMW
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Danger Will Robinson, extreme danger!

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IE10 Password Eye

therube
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How do I remove the “eye symbol” from password fields in Windows 8?

Do not display the reveal password button

Internet Explorer 10 Windows 8 Remove Text Input and Password Action Icons

Blackbird
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It's everywhere! It's everywhere...!

StuartMW
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Yep, Bob is everywhere

Blackbird
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said by StuartMW:

Yep, Bob is everywhere

As a very little kid, I used to think there was somebody inside the dollar-bill looking out the back, through that triangular hole. Little did I know I was right...

antdude
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said by Blackbird:

said by StuartMW:

Yep, Bob is everywhere

As a very little kid, I used to think there was somebody inside the dollar-bill looking out the back, through that triangular hole. Little did I know I was right...

When I was a callow ant, I thought there was a real eye inside that pyrmaid in Egypt. :P

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I've used a Firefox addon for years to achieve the same thing. There are times when I get fat fingers and it comes in handy.
scelli (banned)
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Mele20
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Thank you!

What I want to know is why it is not on the MAIN login here if it supposed to be on all logins?

How come I have had IE 10 now for almost FOUR MONTHS and this just showed up now? It did not come on IE 10 and Win 8 like those articles claim. It is something NEW on IE.
dave
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Side note: commentary from 2008 on password-reveal features:

»www.codinghorror.com/blo ··· eal.html

I agree: is good thing. Most mandatory obfuscation is a holdover from the days when computer terminals used paper. If someone's looking over your shoulder, don't click on that button. Which may be risky if you don't know what the button is.
19579823 (banned)
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Thats totally stupid and UN-NEEDED!!!!!

What the hell??

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said by 19579823:

Thats totally stupid and UN-NEEDED!!!!!

What the hell??

You wouldn't say that if you'd used up 2 of your 3 tries to enter your banking password and kept turning around the same 2 characters. Or got on the wrong home row.

It's a tool. It fills a need. How you use it is up to you.
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I guess but the password field shows ************ for a reason!!
dave
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said by 19579823:

I guess but the password field shows ************ for a reason!!

Yeah, a reason that never ever applies to me.

I don't use paper-based computer terminals.
There's no-one looking over my shoulder.
The display is *gone* in the time it takes me to type a few characters and hit ENTER.

Since none of those are problems for me, there's no reason to obscure the password. Making it optional (and requiring explicit action to reveal) is a good solution.

Another good solution is the iOS approach of showing the actual character for a split-second and then blobbing it out; that is not safe if there are overlookers, but it's configurable.

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As I discovered, when researching the feature yesterday, some people like it while others hate it. As per my (and others) link you can disable it. No biggie...

PS: I remember using a DECwriter
dave
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Oh, one of those high-speed modern devices? With the fancy lower case?

It was the ASR33 for me.

StuartMW
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Yeah well I've used one of those too

110 baud is fast enough for anyone
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Re: What's this?

Since many years ago I've installed IE7Pro for my IE browser, I've used "User Script", that shows password in plain text when I hover mouse over the field. I found it very useful and I miss it now, when I'm using Iron...
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said by dave:

said by 19579823:

I guess but the password field shows ************ for a reason!!

Yeah, a reason that never ever applies to me.

I don't use paper-based computer terminals.
There's no-one looking over my shoulder.
The display is *gone* in the time it takes me to type a few characters and hit ENTER.

Since none of those are problems for me, there's no reason to obscure the password. Making it optional (and requiring explicit action to reveal) is a good solution.

Another good solution is the iOS approach of showing the actual character for a split-second and then blobbing it out; that is not safe if there are overlookers, but it's configurable.

But if it doesn't show ******* it is not sent encrypted. All truly encrypted passwords are sent as ******* over the net. Plus each character as it is typed in is individually encrypted as it's ' * ' counter part. The ' * ' may look alike but in reality are like individual snowflakes.
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I never noticed that, because '********' is my actual password.
19579823 (banned)
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Someone try it and see if they get login to daves acct
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said by StuartMW:

PS: I remember using a DECwriter

said by dave:

Oh, one of those high-speed modern devices? With the fancy lower case?

It was the ASR33 for me.

said by StuartMW:

Yeah well I've used one of those too

110 baud is fast enough for anyone

Terminals? You two are spoiled! Have you ever dropped a stack of punch cards? DECwriter & ed was heaven!

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said by SCADAGeo:

Terminals? You two are spoiled! Have you ever dropped a stack of punch cards? DECwriter & ed was heaven!

Never used punch cards for data entry, but did use them as analog data storage at several places I worked over the years.

That is we used them as notepaper... man they sure bought too many punch cards back in the day...

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said by SCADAGeo:

Have you ever dropped a stack of punch cards?

Yes I have. Have you entered programs through front panel switches? How about storing programs/data on cassette tape?
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I confess to having been considered a raw noobie by my colleagues since I never bothered to commit the PDP11 absolute loader to memory; if I needed to flip it in through the console switches, I'd have to read it from my handy reference card.

But most PDP11s I dealt with came with diode ROMs by that time.

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said by dave:

...I never bothered to commit the PDP11 absolute loader to memory...

I wrote my own custom loader (not on a PDP11) to read read programs from cassette tape into memory. I had it hand-written, in hex, on paper and it was entered via switches. I was pretty quick at toggling switches Nowadays not so much