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IowaCowboy
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join:2010-10-16
Springfield, MA
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The post office should cut costs

The post office could cut costs by delivering weekdays in urban areas and twice or three times a week to rural areas.

They could also charge higher postage for delivery to rural areas or require rural residents pay a monthly fee to receive mail but could get a PO Box free of charge.

I have a PO Box because there are certain individuals/companies I don't want them to have my home address.

A PO Box is the old fashioned way of hiding behind a screen name.

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I have not and will not cut the cord.


ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL

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I'm not in favor of penalizing people and businesses in rural areas. Those areas have enough hardships. No reason to add more.

What the USPS needs to do is find a way to beat UPS and FedEx at their own game. There should be a simple way for individuals and businesses to mail packages without having to go to a post office. Plus, residential packages should be delivered at times that are convenient for people. In other words, it's a pain to have to deal with figuring out when a package is coming and trying to have someone there to sign for it, or, if the delivery comes at a time when no one is there, having to then go to the package center, which, more often than not, is located in a well-hidden building in a far corner of town.

That, and find a way to cut down on the lines at post offices. I hate the idea of having to spend most of my lunch hour standing in line for something that can be done at a kiosk, or, if I need to speak with a human, standing in line behind people whose business could be better handled at a kiosk.


cramer
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
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reply to IowaCowboy

Good luck explaining to your insurance company why the bill was paid a week late... "Mail is only delivered and picked up on Monday's out here."

Different rates based on population density will never sit well with people. Enough people already avoid the USPS and their ever expanding fees, they don't need MORE reasons to avoid them.

Post offices don't have nearly enough space to offer a box to every rural customer. In fact, they've shut down a good number of facilities already. Having a tiny box several miles away from you that needs to be checked at least weekly -- mother****ing junk mail!!! -- is absolutely annoying.

(Used to be, eons ago, one could opt-out of junk mail ["bulk mail"], but the USPS today are such whores for every penny, they won't do that. Oct/Nov/Dec every year, my "PO Box" (pedestal) will overflow in a week -- or faster -- with useless damned sales and fliers. Otherwise, I get a half dozen 1st class, non-bulk, intentionally-sent-to-me things PER MONTH; and none of it needs my attention.)


rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
reply to IowaCowboy

Now wait a minute. Aren't a lot of folks (not just rural folks) making noise about getting more government subsidies to lay fiber in corn fields -- otherwise poor farmers won't have high-speed Internet? If we're open to charging a fee for them to get postal service, why would we entertain subsidizing fiber for them?



IowaCowboy
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reply to ISurfTooMuch

The main reason packages have to be mailed at the Post Office is security. They ended the self service kiosks after the Unabomber and incidents involving explosives/hazardous items being sent in the mail. Then the events after 9/11 involving the anthrax in the mail made matters worse for mail security.

So the main reason that they don't have self-serve kiosks is security.

When I mail a letter, I always mail it from the post office. There have been recent incidents around here that have made the news involving vandalism and theft of mail from mailboxes so I prefer to mail a letter/package at the post office and I prefer to get my mail at my PO Box.

UPS has taken security a step further by requiring ID when you send a package.
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I have not and will not cut the cord.



IowaCowboy
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reply to rradina

I'm not trying to single rural folks out, I'm just looking from a logistical and cost perspective. My aunt lives in Washington state (in Cheney which is just outside of Spokane) and UPS ads a rural surcharge if we send her a package using UPS. We used to send her Devil Dogs because she couldn't get the Drake's brand on the west coast (she grew up in Springfield, MA before she joined the military in 1969) and she loves Drake's Devil Dogs. We could not get them in Iowa either.

The hard truth is urban areas are cheaper for service providers whether that is a broadband provider, electric utility, or delivery service.

I might be from Iowa but I grew up in the city (Cedar Rapids) so I am used to urban areas. Urban living does have drawbacks like crime and traffic. Rural areas might have their advantages as well but they have their drawbacks like long emergency service (police, fire, and EMS) response times.

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I have not and will not cut the cord.



chip89
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join:2012-07-05
Independence, OH

We all know what happen to devil dogs. and this is a very bad try to save the post office the thing with it is outdated and to slow for today all the mail i get is junk mail. If they don't change soon they will also go the way of devil dogs.


pepsiaddict

join:2007-10-31
Rochester, NY

1 recommendation

reply to cramer

Rural users pay a fee for UPS/Fedex delivery services (on top of any applicable residential fee) .. why should USPS be treated any differently? Its a business just like UPS and Fedex are ... USPS is just burdened with more regulations/requirements/legislative whims than its competitors.

Realistically ... UPS and Fedex have conceded there is little/no money to be made in super rural areas ... if its rural enough your UPS/Fedex package gets delivered by USPS anyway.



cdru
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Fort Wayne, IN
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reply to ISurfTooMuch

said by ISurfTooMuch:

There should be a simple way for individuals and businesses to mail packages without having to go to a post office.

You mean like scheduling a pickup?

Plus, residential packages should be delivered at times that are convenient for people.

UPS and Fedex don't generally do this. They just dump it on your doorstep. Or if it must be signed for, hold it at the distribution center for you to pickup. This is all the same that USPS does.

In other words, it's a pain to have to deal with figuring out when a package is coming and trying to have someone there to sign for it, or, if the delivery comes at a time when no one is there, having to then go to the package center, which, more often than not, is located in a well-hidden building in a far corner of town.

The 10 real post offices closest to my house are all in very accessible locations, clearly marked, and usually right in the middle of the area that they serve.

That, and find a way to cut down on the lines at post offices. I hate the idea of having to spend most of my lunch hour standing in line for something that can be done at a kiosk, or, if I need to speak with a human, standing in line behind people whose business could be better handled at a kiosk.

There's this thing called a website. A lot of your business can be done there. Print postage. Ship a package. Order supplies. Change your address. Hold or forward your mail. If you MUST go to the post office, the last several I've been in have had ATM-like kiosks that you can do a lot of that at as well.


mackey
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reply to IowaCowboy

said by IowaCowboy:

They ended the self service kiosks

No they didn't. My local Post Office has 2 out in the (unattended) lobby near the PO Boxes, plus 2 more slightly larger ones in the main lobby next to the attended counters. Last week when I mailed a package I just walked right past everyone standing in line and went to the machine and beep beep beep swipe and dropped it in the bin on my way out the door.

If I had a scale I trusted I'd just buy the postage online and save a couple bucks.

/M

ISurfTooMuch

join:2007-04-23
Tuscaloosa, AL
reply to cdru

Scheduling a pickup is fine, provided you know how much postage to add. How about kiosks placed at convenient locations where you can walk up, place your package on a scale, swipe a credit card, slap on the postage that comes out, and deposit the package? Some may say that security is an issue, but I've mailed many packages at post offices and never once had my package searched, my ID checked, or anything else, so there's no real security there, either.

As for UPS and FedEx not delivering at convenient times, no, they don't. That's something that, if the USPS did it, would be better than these services. And, when I mentioned out-of-the-way package centers, I'm talking about UPS and FedEx.

The post office could be even more helpful if they added a feature that would allow a recipient to reroute a package in transit, provided it could be intercepted in time. Suppose someone mails me a package to my home when I really needed it at work. I could tell the sender, and they'd provide me with a tracking number and security code, which I could then enter on the USPS Web site to allow me to enter a different delivery address. Since it would already be known to the USPS the route the package is going to take for delivery, a printed label could be waiting for it at its next check-in point.

As for the USPS Web site, I'm aware of it. So, why not have kiosks in every post office so people can just walk up and use it? In fact, I just came back from mailing a package, and it sure would have been nice to have been able to skip the line and do everything at a kiosk. And I couldn't have done it from my office because I had to buy the book to place in the package near the post office.


clone

join:2000-12-11
Portage, IN
reply to chip89

How many times is this patent bullshit going to be repeated? THE POST OFFICE IS SOLVENT!!

There, I had to yell it, but do you understand that yet?? THE POST OFFICE IS NOT LOSING MONEY!

They are only operating in the red because the government has forced them to fund 75 YEARS worth of pensions. Right now, they are putting money away for employees that haven't even been born yet! Not to mention that, under the current administration, this pension has been seen as a cash center and has already been raided, meaning the post office must put EVEN MORE MONEY away to fund pensions.

The post office is not the problem, government liars and bureaucrats who sway the public opinion of the ignorant (such as people who believe the post office is "outdated" or "slow", which they aren't for the price they charge) into believing things are dire at the post office so they can steal even more of their money, are!

Don't believe everything you hear on CNN or read on the internet.



chip89
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join:2012-07-05
Independence, OH
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With out the pensions thing they would of still lost 5.1 billion dollars so there!
»www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575···on-loss/


cramer
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:8
reply to IowaCowboy

So the main reason that they don't have self-serve kiosks is security.

Security THEATER. How does handing a sealed box to a clerk who just tosses into the bin any different than me personally placing it in a drop box? (Answer: none f'ing at all)

UPS has taken security a step further by requiring ID when you send a package.

Since when? I've shipped dozens of packages and never been asked by any clerk or driver for any form of ID at all -- hell, they don't even ask for ID to deliver packages. And BOTH UPS and Fedex have drop boxes all over the place.

(ironically, the one time (over 20 years ago) I've had to show ID and sign for a package was with, wait for it, USPS. There's a *reason* law firms use private couriers these days... ups/fedex/usps don't honor their "hand-deliver, id required" options.)

cramer
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join:2007-04-10
Raleigh, NC
kudos:8
reply to pepsiaddict

why should USPS be treated any differently?

Because they are government business. Their existence is legislated -- and they MUST serve 100% of US territories. UPS and Fedex are private, for-profit companies with investors and shareholders, and is free to serve whomever and where ever they wish.

If you remember DHL... there were LOTS of places in the US where they didn't run. They wouldn't deliver packages there at all -- no hand off, NOTHING. And UPS/Fedex do not hand off to USPS unless you pay for that service. (and you'll be told about it up-front.) [Newegg and Amazon use that service, even in serviced areas; I've had numerous USPS last-mile-deliveries to commercial locations in Raleigh, where their drivers have to go *anyway* for pickups and empty the drop box.]


88615298
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join:2004-07-28
West Tenness
reply to chip89

said by chip89:

With out the pensions thing they would of still lost 5.1 billion dollars so there!
»www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-575···on-loss/

The pension funding is still 68% of the loss. The $5.1 billion could easily be made up with a 5 cent increase in stamps. Anyone thinking it was smart to fund 75 years worth of pension over 10 years is an idiot. Where does funding the pensions of future workers that aren't even born yet makes sense? I'm glad some guy who won't be born until 2025 already has his pension funded.

tkdslr

join:2004-04-24
Pompano Beach, FL
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reply to chip89

If you read the article.. It's prefunding of retiree health benefits that's responsible for most of the loss.. to the tune of $11.1 billion..

To me.. it's just another Neocon scam.. to build up another fund, just so they can borrow and spend it..


Androidian

join:2012-12-14
Purcellville, VA
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reply to ISurfTooMuch

said by ISurfTooMuch:

As for UPS and FedEx not delivering at convenient times, no, they don't. That's something that, if the USPS did it, would be better than these services.

One major difference between FedEx/UPS and the USPS here... When leaving packages when inclement weather is expected, FedEx and UPS will put your packages in a plastic bag to ensure they're not soaking wet by the time you get them.

The USPS can't be "bothered" to do "fancy" things like this (i.e. the postal carrier is too lazy) - hence a number of times I've returned home from work at the end of the day to have packages ruined. One time I had the package shipped via UPS, and they handed off to USPS which treated the package like garbage - I was shocked. When asked, UPS told me they couldn't guarantee that the USPS wouldn't handle my packages shipped through them - hence why I will not use UPS anymore either.
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