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El Quintron
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Re: Proposed Mother of All Builds (MOAB)

said by Gordo74:

PSU - No need for 1k+. Just go with a gold 850 (personally I like Seasonic X850, but that's just me). Save a bit more there and it'll be more efficient for this build.

Seconded, I replaced my trusty Ultra 750 LSP with the above mentioned PSU and it's awesome, I love it. The only thing I might do in the near future is replace the stock cables with some blue and white sleeved one to match my mobo.
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I was going to stay with my 750w, but if I am going to upgrade, I may as well go for a 1k, which will give me the headroom to OC (each card can pull down 320w when OC'd, plus the CPU and mobo, plus a possible full custom loop in the future...).
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This looks familiar



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Rebuild time
Good things come from Microcenter.


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said by Krisnatharok:

Good things come from Microcenter.

Sexy... make sure to post techie pr0n when you assemble it.
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Got home from Microcenter with the mobo/memory/CPU (meant to get 1600 ram, but the 1866 won't hurt), spent the last 4 hours carefully putting everything together.

The system will power on, but is displaying a 0055 "Detect Memory" error, and the DRAM error light is on near the 24 ATX power cable on the mobo. (this mobo comes with error lights for CPU, memory, GPU, and HDD so you can quickly troubleshoot the issue).

I have:
• Checked for loose connections
• Cycled each module through the _A2 slot (the one to use if you only use one DIMM)
• Tried all combos of memory (1/2/4 with each module in each slot)
• Reseated the CPU and checked for bent pins (there are not any)
• Tried two other types of DDR3 memory--two different OCZ Gold 2GB 1600mhz dimms, and two different G.Skill 2GB 1600mhz dimms
• Reseated the GPU
• Utilized ROG Connect on a remote PC to diagnose via USB (confirms 0055 Detect Memory error)

Edit: The odd thing is that it is not giving the ram beep code via the speaker, even though it it is displaying the memory error.

ASUS is closed now for tech support, I may just wait until tomorrow and give them a call, but I suspect I have a bad board and will need to take it back to Microcenter.

Does anyone disagree, or have additional ideas?

For funsies, here are the final build specs--new mobo/memory/CPU/case, recycling my GPU/SSD/HDD/PSU/CPU cooler. The listed fans are on the H100. Waiting for another GPU to come back into stock.

System Specs

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CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100 92.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Formula EATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($278.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Red 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($143.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($319.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($445.91 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill THOR V2-W ATX Full Tower Case ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre PWM 51.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($9.99 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre PWM 51.3 CFM 120mm Fan ($9.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional Gold 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($127.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($135.97 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $2177.22
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-16 20:13 EDT-0400)
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Cooler installed
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Cooler + Memory
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No adapter needed with the Thor V2!
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Massive 2.5 slot GPU installed
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Close up of the Vapor-X
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0055 Detect Memory Error :(
Some shots of the build so far.


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Have you tried 1 stick of RAM first, in the furthest away slot from the CPU?

I've been told of late you need to use 1 stick of RAM to set up the system and once it is running you can add more.
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I hadn't tried it in the _B2 slot, the ASUS manual directs you to use the _A2 slot (the second one from the CPU) when running with a single stick of ram.

That said, it won't hurt to try.
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Maybe it is the _A2 slot, but my mate (out of town) builds loads of ASUS motherboard gaming rigs and it was a small discussion one day, that he mentioned only 1 stick of RAM. It is strange some of the qwerks you get to hear about at times.

Best of luck.



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Just looking at that RAM, it isn't on the QVL that I could tell?



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QVL's are pretty worthless as far as they go--there is ram on this board's QVL with a voltage of 1.75v, which will fry an Ivy Bridge CPU.

So here's where it gets weird. I did as you suggested and put the ram in the furthest slot, and it boots up. I'm not sure if dustbusting the ram and the slots did anything, but I quickly found out that the mobo will take ram in the _B1 and _B2 slots (or both), but the moment I stick ram in _A1 or _A2 it defaults into the "Detect Ram Error" problem.

The layout goes:

• CPU
• DIMM_A1
• DIMM_A2
• DIMM_B1
• DIMM_B2
• Edge of mobo

The manual says to put a single dimm in A2, and two sticks in A2/B2.

The ram is 10-11-10-30, but the XMP defaults to 9 CAS. Not sure if that has to do anything, or if I should try 1333, 1600, or the ram's native 1866 in trying to get the mobo to POST with all ram slots populated.

I wonder if I should just return one package of ram and be happy with 16GB in B1/B2. I doubt it is dual channel in that configuration.
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Getting it up and running on 2 sticks, then once it settles, try manually tuning the RAM to specs.
I had Geil ram on an ASUS board that wasn't QVL listed and I could set it up to specs manually, but with automatic it would drop back in clocks.
I think you are seeing the same thing, you will just have to play with the memory timing to find what works.

1600 and down is non-O/C'd as well, 1866 up is O/C specs too, which might have something to do with it.

I don't like to say this often, but ignore the manual.
Go for manually set, you should get it all working eventually.

By the way, nice rig.

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Any idea where to start? I've never been a memory enthusiast.

You can see where it tried to default to 9-9-9-24 and I changed it back to the ram's native 10-11-10-30 (per the sticker on the ram).


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Do you have XMP enabled in Bios?



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I'll be honest and say I've not used this motherboard, so looking at the bios looks daunting to say the least.

For your long term needs:
»www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/···ngs/26/1

Hopefully someone who knows this motherboard can help, as I've never played with the top end boards of ASUS - they tend to double the settings.
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said by Ghastlyone:

Do you have XMP enabled in Bios?

I've tried it with XMP, Auto, and Manual.

Just flashed the UEFI to the latest version. Still no dice with Channel A.
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I want to say that after a few glasses of rye, I probably have nothing constructive to say to get you up and running, but that's a very nice machine.


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lol, I'm trying to troubleshoot a few shots of Kraken, so my efforts will be better served tomorrow.

Right now I have it running on Memory Channel B (16GB in single channel). I'll see what the ASUS forums have to say about it tomorrow.
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Asus tech support confirmed the mobo is bad (in about 30 seconds, from a native-English-speaking, U.S.-based tech).

Oh well, off to Microcenter to return it for the last one they had.
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said by Krisnatharok:

Asus tech support confirmed the mobo is bad (in about 30 seconds, from a native-English-speaking, U.S.-based tech).

Oh well, off to Microcenter to return it for the last one they had.

When I got my P8Z77-V, it had to be RMAd as well, and the tech support was Canadian, based out of a 'burb 15 mins away from me... it was pretty awesome.
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Second Maximus V Formula is DOA from Microcenter--all the other components are known to be working, but this one won't pass the first POST. The PCIe retention clip on the third PCIe slot also was broken before I opened the box.

What the fuck ASUS, I expected better quality control for a flagship enthusiast product.

Looks like a third trip to Microcenter tomorrow in as many days. Anyone want anything while I'm there? lol
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You should exchange that for a Gigabyte board



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Shaddup. You're the second person to tell me that.



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said by Krisnatharok:

Shaddup. You're the second person to tell me that.

lol


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Seriously though. I'd take that shit back the second they open. I can understand one needing an RMA, but a 2nd one also?

That's completely unacceptable. I'd definitely be considering a different brand at that point.



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There is no way I would go with another Asus board after the second one was crap.

Asrock, MSI and Gigabyte are my top choices, in that order.



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said by Ghastlyone:

Seriously though. I'd take that shit back the second they open. I can understand one needing an RMA, but a 2nd one also?

That's completely unacceptable. I'd definitely be considering a different brand at that point.

My wife had a similar issue with an EEE netbook she got as part of a promo, it had to be RMA'd 3 times, she pretty much swore off ASUS after that.

My impression is that this is a faulty product line altogether.
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I guess third time is the charm.

I brought my PSU, CPU, and ram and made Microcenter POST it for me before I walked out the door. (Then forgot my power cable there, #facepalm)

Everything works as intended now, and the Rosewill Thor V2 is QUIET. Even with all fans maxed (1x stock Rosewill 230mm front, 1x Bitfenix 230mm side, 2x Bitfenix 120mm top, 1x 140mm Bitfenix back), it's still very, very quiet.

I'd be hard-pressed to recommend ASUS again after this debacle, but I wanted this exact board due to the [alleged] quality, PCIe spacing, OC potential, and the other "goodies" it comes with, such as the integrated water pipe on the chipset should I decide to watercool.

The ASUS "CPU level up" is a pretty neat feature--press a button and the 3770K goes to 4.6 GHz stable. It spikes the voltage to 1.33v, though, so I'll have to tweak that down a little so it doesn't run as warm.
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said by Krisnatharok:

Everything works as intended now, and the Rosewill Thor V2 is QUIET. Even with all fans maxed (1x stock Rosewill 230mm front, 1x Bitfenix 230mm side, 2x Bitfenix 120mm top, 1x 140mm Bitfenix back), it's still very, very quiet.

Thats what I love about larger fan diameters. They move more air and are a lot quieter. It's win win.

said by Krisnatharok:

The ASUS "CPU level up" is a pretty neat feature--press a button and the 3770K goes to 4.6 GHz stable. It spikes the voltage to 1.33v, though, so I'll have to tweak that down a little so it doesn't run as warm.

Gigabyte has the EasyTune6 software included. You get 3 levels of overclocking with a click of a button whichi s pretty cool. I think it's 4.1ghz, 4.3 and then 4.6

I've read a lot of people say it over volts a tad bit too much though. Sounds like most these boards all have the same thing.