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nephipower

join:2012-02-20
San Antonio, TX

reply to fakarooz

Re: new speeds only more than 100× slower than the competi

fakarooz any word if AT&T is planning on doing anything for FTTH customers?

bplein

join:2013-03-14
Leander, TX

reply to doubleohwhat

said by doubleohwhat:

Nope. That's just what FTTH customers are stuck with.

As it stands now (not taking future "possible" changes into account), you DO NOT want FTTH from AT&T. You'll be stuck on a lower profile than the VDSL folks.

Can someone explain why they cap FTTH/FTTP at 18 while allowing copper to go to 24? Seriously thinking of trying a cable provider, but with my luck, I'd end up capped or dealing with other issues. AT&T has been pretty good for me, technically, with the only exception being flaky RGs (needed to reboot periodically to resume voice lines that fail) and their abysmal customer support phone people.


DataRiker
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join:2002-05-19
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ATT has more restrictive caps than the Cable providers in my area.


ConstantineM

join:2011-09-02
San Jose, CA
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reply to bplein

said by bplein:

Can someone explain why they cap FTTH/FTTP at 18 while allowing copper to go to 24?

Because their copper can only do something like 30/5, but FTTP/FTTH/FTTU is easily capable of 80/40 even without any hardware upgrades.

They artificially restrict the fibre, so that they don't have to upgrade the copper, and then because so few people have fibre from at&t in the first place, they simply outright forgetting the fibre when introducing new copper profiles.


Rangersfan

@sbcglobal.net

reply to bplein

said by bplein:

Can someone explain why they cap FTTH/FTTP at 18 while allowing copper to go to 24? Seriously thinking of trying a cable provider, but with my luck, I'd end up capped or dealing with other issues. AT&T has been pretty good for me, technically, with the only exception being flaky RGs (needed to reboot periodically to resume voice lines that fail) and their abysmal customer support phone people.

This was discussed at length in the thread below:

»AT&T U-verse FTTP speeds, why do they limit fibre to 18/1.5?

WhyMe420
Premium
join:2009-04-06
kudos:1

reply to DataRiker
U-verse (VDSL/Fiber) is virtually uncapped at the moment.


nephipower

join:2012-02-20
San Antonio, TX

reply to DataRiker

said by DataRiker:

ATT has more restrictive caps than the Cable providers in my area.

That is a half-truth. AT&T may have a theoretical cap at 250 GB but there has never been one report of a single person here for Uverse service to be charged any overage fees.

That is because Uverse is not tracking usage for customers yet.


fakarooz

@sbcglobal.net

reply to nephipower
The reason behind why FTTP customers cannot subscribe to speeds higher than 18/1.5 is due to the backend hardware that support FTTP. It was designed to fit the original 25meg profile by having support of up to 30mbps max sync rate. Even though your ONTs are more than capable to handle much higher bandwidths, the back end equipment needs to be updated to support higher profiles. I am not completely sure when this will happen, but I'm guessing that it will happen after initial roll out of the new speed tiers.



AnonInSE

@sbcglobal.net

reply to Fakarooz

Re: New speeds coming

I've had Uverse for two years & am apparently 100 yards too far from the Vrad (three houses up from me have perfect service, mine works great in the winter, bounces constantly in warmer months) - is there any chance this update in technology may help me with my trouble?

I've had about 50 visits from techs over the course of the first summer of my installation, the ultimate diagnosis is that as the lines heat up & expand/contract it introduces noise in the line which kills the sync between my inid & the vrad.


DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
00000

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reply to nephipower

Re: new speeds only more than 100× slower than the competi

said by nephipower:

said by DataRiker:

ATT has more restrictive caps than the Cable providers in my area.

That is because Uverse is not tracking usage for customers yet.

Technical difficulties have kept it from enforcement. I wouldn't depend on this for much longer.

nephipower

join:2012-02-20
San Antonio, TX

reply to fakarooz

Re: new speeds only more than 100× slower than the competi

fakarooz thank you for the clarification about FTTP.

So for those who will be able to get the faster speeds with the new pair connections will video be delivered at higher bitrates for those individuals?

So perhaps they can get higher quality HD video.


DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
00000

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reply to Anon
I used to install uverse and we were told enforcement was coming. All other unofficial info we got turned out to be credible, don't see why this one will be any different.

Anybody who is involved on the Uverse side can tell you the whole operation is a cluster fuck.

A big priority and a lot of faith is being put into the new universal RG. Once that is standard, I promise you the meter will be back.

Ask our corporate friend "fakarooz" if his corporate line is any different than what the techs have been hearing. Bet its not.



Wily_One
Premium
join:2002-11-24
San Jose, CA

We've heard talk about caps since 2009. Now it's 2013 and we're hearing the same thing: "it's just around the corner."

When it finally happens, then we can talk about it.



DataRiker
Premium
join:2002-05-19
00000

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Caps were first announced in May 2011, and were not scheduled to begin until 2012 *IF* I remember correctly.

Your implying this was just some unsubstantiated rumor.

It has already been applied to the ADSL side, with overages. Its not a question of if but when for the Uverse side.



Mario100

@sbcglobal.net

Your Right. The time is correct



Uverse Newbi

@sbcglobal.net

reply to DataRiker
question how would the new speeds be implemented to those on single pairs?

hell my single pair sync rate is over 59k+Kbps



Wily_One
Premium
join:2002-11-24
San Jose, CA

reply to DataRiker
Now we're going to argue timeline? Search this forum - talk of caps coming started in 2009. I'm not going to do your homework for you.

I'll worry about it when it actually happens to me on my account. Forum posts I don't worry about.


doubleohwhat

join:2008-10-25
Birmingham, AL

reply to Uverse Newbi

said by Uverse Newbi :

question how would the new speeds be implemented to those on single pairs?

From what I understand, a second pair would be setup. Apparently the max syn required for the new tier is 69mbps.

Very few (if any) people will have lines with a max sync that is both higher than that and stable. It also makes sense to go ahead and switch everyone over to two pairs whenever there's a truck roll. That way you'll be good to go in the future when another tier is announced.
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