 OctaveanPremium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY kudos:1 | reply to Mele20
Re: [poll] What will happen with Win8? said by Mele20:Why does everyone say the lack of the Start button is the big problem? It is not the deal breaker with Win 8. The deal breaker is the god-awful Charms bar and the huge, ugly, black, redundant clock that keeps popping up constantly when you don't need them. Besides, both are extremely hideous and can't be changed at all. Then there is the fact that the gigantic black clock is totally unneeded. There is a clock on the task bar. Why would Microsoft foist ANOTHER one of gigantic size onto the user? Why would anyone need TWO clocks? And the name "Charms" bar is so insulting...childish and dumb...just that damn bar.
I could live without the Start menu if the Charms bar had a better name and looked appealing with appealing icons and never popped up unless I called it. As for the hideous clock...I am not blind so I don't require a gigantic black clock popping up constantly for no reason. The user should be able to dismiss it entirely. Plus, the fact that it and the Charms bar are married to each other (so they always appear together) is another total inanity. In contrast, the lack of a Start button is not welcome but not nearly as bad as the other two items.
I wonder if I had this if I would feel differently? »www.amazon.com/Logitech-Recharge···093H4WT6
Since I just have a laser mouse, I had to get Start8 to stop the Charms bar and the big black clock from almost constantly popping up except when I needed the Charms bar and then nothing would get it to pop up).
I said "like the Start button for example". I didn't say I thought that was definitely the issue but a lot of people have complained about it just the same. Not me personally because I can navigate easily enough with or without it.
Anyway, I hear what you are saying. I also hear that some people may take issue with other things but none of what I have heard you say actually constitutes a flaw or defect IMO. What I'm hearing is a preference and opinion based on likes and dislikes.
I can say that I am more then a little surprised someone would take such issue with something as inane as a name,...especially if it isn't offensive in some way,.. |
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 davePremium,MVM join:2000-05-04 not in ohio kudos:7 | said by Octavean:I can say that I am more then a little surprised someone would take such issue with something as inane as a name,...especially if it isn't offensive in some way,.. I must say I don't like "charms", but then again I dislike much Windows GUI verbiage: I don't like the "my" prefix on some file system directories ("My Documents", etc); I don't much like the concept of "favourites" as opposed to say "bookmarks" (favourites indicates some degree of emotional involvement that I just don't have); and so on. I prefer neutral terms; the Windows guys seem to try too hard to make up appealing terms, and they fail to appeal to me.
But I don't go as far as some members of this forum and experience this poor choice of naming as "insulting". "Insulting" indicates some degree of emotional involvement that I just don't have. |
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 OctaveanPremium,MVM join:2001-03-31 New York, NY kudos:1 | Yeah I don't get the emotional end of it either. Beyond that a rose by any other name IMO,.... |
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 DarkLogixTexan and ProudPremium join:2008-10-23 Baytown, TX kudos:3 | reply to Kramer said by Kramer:said by BillRoland:Its even worse when you realize they were almost giving it away for several months.
The first thing Microsoft needs to do is oust Steve Ballmer. This company has been completely adrift since Bill Gates left. I'm not sure Gates doesn't deserve some of the blame too. I'm not sure Microsoft ever had the ability to innovate, but whatever ability it had disappeared long before Gates left the company. People don't get windows for innovation, they get windows to be able to work.
The only innovation MS needs to worry about is integrating new tech into the OS so people don't have to install crappy 3rd part hacks to get things to work. (Bluetooth I'm looking at you) -- »www.change.org/petitions/create-···imcity-4 |
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| I was really being unfair. Microsoft has innovated quite a bit. The improvements we look forward to with every Windows release are a good example. The innovations are mostly transparent, but they do exist. There are lots of creative people at MS. You don't succeed as a technology company over the long term without innovating. It is the blockbuster innovations that MS so sorely needs to create. The iPads, the Facebooks, the iTunes, the search engines and infrastructure. You can't lead from behind but for so long. I get frustrated that that is basically what Microsoft has done during their modern history. It has cost the company dearly. |
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