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Re: Toronto CityPlace internet options

reply to cityplaceUse
Problem with retrofitting old buildings is getting to the suite... Getting fibre into the main IT is no big deal... Even the risers are generally accessible; it's the last 100' that's the issue.

Bell did play with putting VDSL remotes in condo's, and using VDSL over existing copper to get to the suite - works, but fairly expensive way to go...

FIOS just said screw it, and ran surface mounted access fibre in the hallways of buildings they installed; much to the displeasure of building owners and tenants...

Anyways - getting away from the OP, so I'll shut up now...

reply to BliZZardX
"They can connect old condos too, Pure Spirits in the Distillery District got lit up recently, and I believe they looking at a few other buildings on the eastern part of downtown."

Beanfield has a map for their Residential Services. If Pure Spirits was wired for FTTP/FTTB then it was part of their Beanfield Metroconnect Business division.

»www.beanfieldcondoconnect.com/ne···map.html

There is also a listing for their Commercial/Business wiring and which buildings are wired for FTTP/FTTB here:

»www.beanfield.com/onnet.html

It's a residential connection at 33 Mill St, the Condoconnect website hasn't been updated in ages and for the most part only contains info regarding their partnership with Waterfronttoronto, I think this happened outside of that. But if you look on the map, the area of Parliament & Front is there highlighted in purple.

"It's a residential connection at 33 Mill St, the Condoconnect website hasn't been updated in ages and for the most part only contains info regarding their partnership with Waterfronttoronto, I think this happened outside of that. But if you look on the map, the area of Parliament & Front is there highlighted in purple."

Perhaps it's a residential connection. However the real question that should be asked is how many can afford to live in that part of downtown Toronto such as Cityplace and the Beanfield Connect Condo's. Especially considering that the minimum monthly rent payment I've seen for a Cityplace condo is roughly $1800 CAD. It's obviously an overinflated housing and condo market supplemented by the $86 Billion bailout in 2009 by the Harper government.

$60 Dollars with Beanfield connect is a great deal (compared to pricing of similar plans from Telus/Bell/Rogers) however compared to the price that Romanians, Lithuanians , South Koreans and others pay for FTTH of similar magnitude it's still a tad pricy.

Rent is definitely pretty high, but if you were to buy a condo, Cityplace is definitely one of the most affordable developments in the downtown area. Bachelor's and One bedroom condos can be bought in the 300k region, which is low for downtown Toronto standards.

reply to FTTHTechie
People live where they can afford to live (unless they are frugal by choice). I've been downtown for over 6 years now and rents have always fluctuated between $2 and $3 per square foot, the upper end usually being "luxury" with things like like 24 hour security and squash courts or swimming pools.

If it appeases you at all Beanfield is installing fiber in the new TCHC public housing project in West Don Lands too: »www.torontohousing.ca/investing_···donlands

If you want a better price on housing you have to look outside the core in places like Parkdale or West Donlands. West Donlands is actually cheaper than City Place right now, the area had a bad reputation being right underneath Regent Park and all so these new developments need to prove themselves.

reply to yyzlhr
300K for a box in the sky that's probably sub 600 sqft

No thanks.

reply to elwoodblues

It's a trade-off. One of my friends commutes from Oakville. They have a big house, but they need to roll out of bed before sunrise and catch the 5:40 GO train to be here for 7:00. Almost 3 hours per day wasted commuting. I spend maybe 20 or 30 minutes walking a day to and from home, no gas to buy, no stop-and-go traffic or train schedule to follow.
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reply to LazMan
I'm east Toronto proper, not a huge place by any means, but it's a house with a good sized backyard and driveway.

A buddy of mine (in that thread about prenup) bought a 1000sqft
"loft" downtown east for 660K. It's gorgeous but no thanks, I like my backyard and my grass and my trees and my garden and my neighbours......

It is about the commute too, I've been fortunate enough to work downtown or at least within an hour of biking away from work. Rode for 11yrs, year round.. people thought I was bloody nuts.

Blizzard absolutely, when I bought my place, my folks thought I was crazy, I could buy a "bigger" place in Brampton. In fact I did look around there. At the time I was working downtown, and we socialized a fair bit after work. There were 3 GO trains at the time going in each direction..

I passed on the entire idea.

reply to cityplaceUse
Dup

reply to cityplaceUse
Totally agree its a trade off. I like small town life; I like my space... The trade off is the commute.

I'm lucky enough to have a lot of flex in my shifts; I leave around 5:30, I'm in the office by 7, out the door at 2:30, home by 5.

I've lived in Toronto proper, there are very nice pockets; but more pricey then I want to spend... I did the Oakville 'thing' for a year, not to my taste, either. So I went back 'home' - north...

I did meet my wife when I lived in Oakville - took my 2 years to convince her to move north of 7...

reply to cityplaceUse
"Rent is definitely pretty high, but if you were to buy a condo, Cityplace is definitely one of the most affordable developments in the downtown area. Bachelor's and One bedroom condos can be bought in the 300k region, which is low for downtown Toronto standards."

Buying a condominium is an option the only question is who has that kind of money lying around in this Economic depression. 300K isn't exactly 30K and you would need an excellent job in this flooded labor market to be able to maintain the upkeep and have disposable income.

Then comes the second concern which is the overinflated housing market. Canada hasn't experienced it's own version of the 2008 Subprime mortgage and housing bubble as the Americans to the south. If you were to buy a Condo how much ROI would you get as Location + Fiber Optic Internet doesn't account for the entirety of the ROI.

I'm not against it but with those kinds of costs you could move to Saskatchewan by 2017 and get Infinet with 260/60 for $149.95 or 80/30 in Maritime Provinces for $100 and both are unlimited (unlike Telus which is 300GB rumored to be unenforced)

If I could just uproot my life and go anywhere I would have done it by now. Umea/Lund/Malmoe have 1000/1000M for less than $150 CAD. But I don't know the language, I don't know the people, I don't know the employers, and the climate isn't exactly Bora Bora.

Bell has been installing fiber in every new construction site since last year and it's not just limited to cities. Buy a house built after 2012 in Woodstock or Kanata and chances are high it has fiber.

There was even a story a few weeks ago about a farming village in the UK that was fed up of hearing no one could offer them decent internet access so they grabbed shovels and did it themselves »www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21442348
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reply to FTTHTechie

reply to BliZZardX
"If I could just uproot my life and go anywhere I would have done it by now. Umea/Lund/Malmoe have 1000/1000M for less than $150 CAD. But I don't know the language, I don't know the people, and I don't know the employers, and the climate isn't exactly Bora Bora.

Bell has been installing fiber in every new construction site since last year and it's not just limited to cities. Buy a house built after 2012 in Woodstock or Kanata and chances are high it has fiber."

I have a friend in Sweden as well and he has 100/100 Fiber Optic in his town and it's FTTH. He has the ability to get 200/200 and even 1000/100 for around $100+ but he says it isn't worth it as most uses won't take advantage of that bandwidth.

The problem is immigrating to Sweden. You will need to have some kind of relative or a family member or to be able to secure a job offer in Sweden. Considering the ongoing Economic depression in Europe the requirements are strict and the labor market is flooded.

I have been considering the same thing with moving to Sweden but unfortunately it's more difficult than it seems. Also they have different electricity voltages and use PAL. The weather and the conditions however are much better and the benefits and relaxed lifestyle is also a dream compared to Canada.

About Canadian FTTH deployment in Bell from the members broadband map it appears it's a slow deployment. I understand that it was started in 2012 however FTTN should have been finished by the 2000's with FTTH deployment finished by the 2010's. Since current FTTN deployment is 59% according to some sources and a target goal of 2015 for FTTN completion by 2015.
FTTH completion for GTA would likely be 2020's or end of this decade and I live in the GTA and my area isn't serviced by FTTN although I did notice what appears to be a FTTN roll-out perhaps recently with Bell trucks in the area.

reply to BliZZardX

reply to cityplaceUse
Bell, TELUS and SaskTel no longer install copper in new developments... Everything is FTTH; and there is serious talk of overlaying fibre in meaningful portions of their legacy network...

But, it takes time and money... Fast forward 5 years, and things will be exceptionally interesting, IMO.