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tomp
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Re: Comcast decides to block port 25 IN and OUT with no notice.

Wow, I smell arrogance. I was not notified about the port change. I spent a significant amount of time wondering why what worked yesterday does not work today. Comcast wasted my time and has done so in many other situations. They have a monopoly in my area, we have lost choice in communications providers. Anti monopoly laws were put in place to maintain healthy competition that benefited consumers and promoted innovation. Those days are almost gone if we continue to tolerate this kind of behavior.
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said by tomp :

Wow, I smell arrogance. I was not notified about the port change. I spent a significant amount of time wondering why what worked yesterday does not work today. Comcast wasted my time and has done so in many other situations. They have a monopoly in my area, we have lost choice in communications providers. Anti monopoly laws were put in place to maintain healthy competition that benefited consumers and promoted innovation. Those days are almost gone if we continue to tolerate this kind of behavior.

Hmm, shall I tell you what I smell?

Comcast sent a notification email to subscribers; there have been other posters in this thread who have verified that (even if you don't believe me). I have no way of knowing if your email was eaten by a spam blocker or simply ignored, but nonetheless, the notification email was sent.

Even if there had been no email notification, port 25 for residential users is listed as being blocked on the Comcast support site (and it has been listed there for many months). The link to that document has already been posted in this thread and in this related thread: »[Rant] Crazy port blocking . Exactly how much notification do you think that Comcast should have given to you personally?

As for competetion, blocking port 25 for residential users is a very common practice; so even if you had a choice, most likely your alternative ISP would also block port 25.

NormanS
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said by tomp :

Wow, I smell arrogance. I was not notified about the port change. I spent a significant amount of time wondering why what worked yesterday does not work today. Comcast wasted my time and has done so in many other situations.

It took me all of 3 seconds to find:
»www.google.com/search?cl ··· =suggest

They have a monopoly in my area, we have lost choice in communications providers. Anti monopoly laws were put in place to maintain healthy competition that benefited consumers and promoted innovation. Those days are almost gone if we continue to tolerate this kind of behavior.

In my area, I have:

• AT&T
• Comcast
• DSL Extreme
• Sonic.net, LLC

... and probably some others. Port 25 is mostly blocked by default, but various customer service options will permit port 25 access for all competitors. A little judicious Internet searching would have turned up answers in less than half an hour.

graysonf
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said by tomp :

Wow, I smell arrogance. I was not notified about the port change. I spent a significant amount of time wondering why what worked yesterday does not work today. Comcast wasted my time and has done so in many other situations. They have a monopoly in my area, we have lost choice in communications providers. Anti monopoly laws were put in place to maintain healthy competition that benefited consumers and promoted innovation. Those days are almost gone if we continue to tolerate this kind of behavior.

Well, you do have options. If there really is no competition in your area that will allow outbound TCP port 25, then absolutely, positively refuse to tolerate it:

Become your own ISP and run things the way you want to, or move to an area that has a service provider that will allow your use of outbound TCP port 25.

AnonMan
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I love people that say become your own ISP.

Too bad all the big companies have monopolized the states so much and lobbied for so many restrictions and laws it's almost impossible.

The only reason Google got to do it was they have deeper pockets.
When is the last time you really saw a new ISP start up much less expand far? ISP is a profitable business to run, no reason to not expand it but rules/laws make it hard. Stupid agreements may not allow competition or not allow one the same access as another etc.

The days of Dial-up are over and that is the days when everyone was becoming and ISP as all was restricted to the same rules. Today is a whole new game. Whoever has the deeper pockets will win. Heck even our presidency goes that way lol
efball
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I do read my Comcast email, but I didn't get any notice.
When I signed up 2 years ago port 25 outbound was blocked, so I used port 587 and relayed thru comcast. That worked fine, but I was using port 25 inbound to receive mail for my domains, which stopped a couple days ago. Blocking port 25 inbound doesn't stop spam, they are doing this just because they can and they want to squeeze more money out of people. No way I'm upgrading to business class. I can buy a virtual server for $15/year and use that for my email server.

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said by efball:

Blocking port 25 inbound doesn't stop spam, they are doing this just because they can and they want to squeeze more money out of people. No way I'm upgrading to business class. I can buy a virtual server for $15/year and use that for my email server.

I believe the Comcast ToS prohibits servers on residential connections. Blocking inbound port 25 would effectively enforce that prohibition.

FWIW, my ISP, Sonic.net, blocks port 25, both outbound and inbound, on dynamic residential accounts. I have three static options:

• /32 for free.
• /30 for $10 a month extra.
• /29 for $20 a month extra.

I chose the /32.

JohnInSJ
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said by efball:

I do read my Comcast email, but I didn't get any notice.
When I signed up 2 years ago port 25 outbound was blocked, so I used port 587 and relayed thru comcast. That worked fine, but I was using port 25 inbound to receive mail for my domains, which stopped a couple days ago. Blocking port 25 inbound doesn't stop spam, they are doing this just because they can and they want to squeeze more money out of people. No way I'm upgrading to business class. I can buy a virtual server for $15/year and use that for my email server.

Did you read the TOS/AUP two years ago? If so, then you knew what you were doing was not supported, and in fact not a valid use of residential service.