davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | JRE != web browser Can any of you Java heads enlighten me?
I need to install a JRE on Windows 7 so that I can run some Java programs.
The java.com web seems to want to know what web browser I'm going to use. The answer is 'none' - I want to run some Java programs. Which have nothing to do with the web.
(And I don't particularly want to install a web-browser interface to Java either).
What is the minimum thing I need to install to run Java programs?
Thanks. |
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 darciliciousCyber LibrarianPremium
join:2001-01-02
Forest Grove, OR
kudos:2 | Pick which whatever browser you like, it doesn't matter -- that will download the JRE for running Java programs locally as well.
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | I was rather hoping there was some way to choose what I wanted and not get what I didn't want. Apparently not?
(I notice also that Oracle Java is one of those things that come with a worthless install-by-default 'tool bar' that you get if you're not paying attention). |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | said by dave:(I notice also that Oracle Java is one of those things that come with a worthless install-by-default 'tool bar' that you get if you're not paying attention). Just to give you a heads up, it will also default to installing the tool bar for every update you download if you choose to update. |
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | I don't understand why an apparently reputable software vendor wants to make it look as though they're run by bottom-feeding scum.
I mean, who thinks things like that are 'useful'? |
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aguenPremium
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| said by dave:I don't understand why an apparently reputable software vendor wants to make it look as though they're run by bottom-feeding scum.
I mean, who thinks things like that are 'useful'?
Because Java software (JRE/JDK) is freeware, thanks to the now defunct Sun Microsystems. Larry Ellison (Oracle) needs the extra fee's associated with these "toolbars, etc." to help defray the cost of his racing yachts.  |
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 GILXA1226Premium,MVM
join:2000-12-29
Dayton, OH | reply to dave
said by dave:I don't understand why an apparently reputable software vendor wants to make it look as though they're run by bottom-feeding scum.
I mean, who thinks things like that are 'useful'?
Don't download from java.com, instead get it from here: »www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/index.html, no annoying toolbars, no 'which browser', etc. java.com was setup for people not technically inclined.
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said by dave:I mean, who thinks things like that are 'useful'? The only way stuff like the toolbar is "useful" to Oracle is in an economic sense. I hate it as much as you do, and don't want Java anywhere near my browsers. |
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 ProtusMoseImmortal. Eternal.Premium
join:2001-10-03
Bellevue, NE
kudos:4 | reply to dave
Does it still try to get you to install openoffice? |
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | I don't think so; but I can probably reject offers of crapware without even noticing  |
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ProtusMoseImmortal. Eternal.Premium
join:2001-10-03
Bellevue, NE
kudos:4 | OpenOffice is actually a good program. I just don't like the disingenous installation. |
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cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to ProtusMose
said by ProtusMose:Does it still try to get you to install openoffice? No. |
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | reply to ProtusMose
said by ProtusMose:OpenOffice is actually a good program. I just don't like the disingenous installation.
Maybe you're right; I simply assumed that any software that hangs around with stealth installers must be up to no good... |
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davePremium,MVM
join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
kudos:8 | reply to dave
I rather prefer the Linux install: download tarball and untar it. This certainly suits my I-have-one-java-app-I-want-to-run situation.
(Such an approach is perfectly possible under Windows, but alas, not provided). |
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