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dave
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JRE != web browser

Can any of you Java heads enlighten me?

I need to install a JRE on Windows 7 so that I can run some Java programs.

The java.com web seems to want to know what web browser I'm going to use. The answer is 'none' - I want to run some Java programs. Which have nothing to do with the web.

(And I don't particularly want to install a web-browser interface to Java either).

What is the minimum thing I need to install to run Java programs?

Thanks.


darcilicious
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Pick which whatever browser you like, it doesn't matter -- that will download the JRE for running Java programs locally as well.
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dave
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I was rather hoping there was some way to choose what I wanted and not get what I didn't want. Apparently not?

(I notice also that Oracle Java is one of those things that come with a worthless install-by-default 'tool bar' that you get if you're not paying attention).


cdru
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said by dave:

(I notice also that Oracle Java is one of those things that come with a worthless install-by-default 'tool bar' that you get if you're not paying attention).

Just to give you a heads up, it will also default to installing the tool bar for every update you download if you choose to update.

dave
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I don't understand why an apparently reputable software vendor wants to make it look as though they're run by bottom-feeding scum.

I mean, who thinks things like that are 'useful'?

aguen
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said by dave:

I don't understand why an apparently reputable software vendor wants to make it look as though they're run by bottom-feeding scum.

I mean, who thinks things like that are 'useful'?

Because Java software (JRE/JDK) is freeware, thanks to the now defunct Sun Microsystems. Larry Ellison (Oracle) needs the extra fee's associated with these "toolbars, etc." to help defray the cost of his racing yachts.


GILXA1226
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said by dave:

I don't understand why an apparently reputable software vendor wants to make it look as though they're run by bottom-feeding scum.

I mean, who thinks things like that are 'useful'?

Don't download from java.com, instead get it from here: »www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/ ··· dex.html, no annoying toolbars, no 'which browser', etc. java.com was setup for people not technically inclined.
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Mospaw
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said by dave:

I mean, who thinks things like that are 'useful'?

The only way stuff like the toolbar is "useful" to Oracle is in an economic sense. I hate it as much as you do, and don't want Java anywhere near my browsers.


ProtusMose
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reply to dave
Does it still try to get you to install openoffice?

dave
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I don't think so; but I can probably reject offers of crapware without even noticing


ProtusMose
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OpenOffice is actually a good program. I just don't like the disingenous installation.


cdru
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said by ProtusMose:

Does it still try to get you to install openoffice?

No.

dave
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said by ProtusMose:

OpenOffice is actually a good program. I just don't like the disingenous installation.

Maybe you're right; I simply assumed that any software that hangs around with stealth installers must be up to no good...

dave
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I rather prefer the Linux install: download tarball and untar it. This certainly suits my I-have-one-java-app-I-want-to-run situation.

(Such an approach is perfectly possible under Windows, but alas, not provided).