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Plumber

@windstream.net

Whats wrong with this picture?



alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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I know! It is too small.


Juggernaut
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reply to Plumber
That's hilarious!

flaughs2000
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East Freedom, PA
reply to Plumber
The wall is upside down.


Eddy Strong

join:2001-08-29
Naples, FL
reply to Plumber
There's no exhaust vent... fumes have nowhere to go...!


alkizmo

join:2007-06-25
Pierrefonds, QC
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reply to flaughs2000
said by flaughs2000:

The wall is upside down.

oh yeah... or the floor is the ceiling.

cwm1276

join:2004-01-16
Stillman Valley, IL
reply to Plumber
I assume, that the pipe is the vent. If it is venting then sink, a backup in the drain of the sink would fill the vent with water. It should be horizontal above the rim of the sink.


leibold
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Sunnyvale, CA
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reply to Plumber
Nothing is wrong. I particularly like the anti-gravity sewer drain stack

aroberti
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Norwalk, CT
reply to Plumber
Why in the world would someone install the toilet and sink before sheetrocking?


nightdesigns
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AZ
reply to Plumber
There's no TP Roll holder!
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John Galt
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Happy Camp
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reply to aroberti
said by aroberti:

Why in the world would someone install the toilet and sink before sheetrocking?

Remodel.


Juggernaut
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That, and probably a dry run for fitting.

robbin
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Leander, TX
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reply to aroberti
said by aroberti:

Why in the world would someone install the toilet and sink before sheetrocking?

They have a tile floor and rug. Who needs finished walls? Besides, the other wall is pine, probably tongue and grove, and not sheetrock. I can't see how it matters much unless someone were to put up the argument that the problem with the pic is that there should be sheetrock behind the pine to act as a fire barrier. In fact, I will do so now!


tp0d
yabbazooie
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Carnegie, PA
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reply to Plumber
Cannot decrease size of the vertical stack.. derp.

-j

robbin
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Leander, TX
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Ok -- where does it decrease?


KrK
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reply to Plumber
The join in the pipes is upside down, isn't it

Water would flood and stand in the pipe.

Took a second to think about it. Looks like they were thinking fumes venting up instead of water flowing down.
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cableties
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reply to Plumber
Ok, I have a question related to that image:

-if I have a vent stack (2.5"PVC) added to a washer, above the trap exit, and that goes up to attic, how do I tie into main vent stack (4"ABS)? (yes, I have the green label adhesive)

In that picture, I would assume that is ok in the attic as the T is way above any water line of anything, and any gases would exit up? Or should the T fitting be straight in, not angle?

I need to tie in the vent to the main (long story but there never was a vent tie in to the 2nd floor washer and it changes all the toilet into bidets when the spin cycle starts...) LOL...no you DO not want to be taking at potty at same time doing the wash! Plumber told me that newer washers have more powerful pumps and being on 2nd floor, that the air in the stack is being forced toward largest opening (aka toilets). He said that without ripping up the floor/ceiling to see the layout, he suspected the washer should have had a drain straight down to the bottom main, with independent vent.

Thanks for the picture!
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pike
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Washington, DC
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Is there an air break between the washing machine's discharge line and the sewer?


Annmarie
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reply to aroberti
Because a toilet, in most cases, is more important than sheet rock?


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reply to robbin
said by robbin:

Ok -- where does it decrease?

Look at the join in the pipes, the opening that continues downward is smaller.

Maybe it's central vac piping!

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sempergoofy
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reply to cableties
You can hopefully see in the photo of a revent project of mine from some years ago where the plumber tied into the main vent stack with the appropriate fitting, and also sloped the the revent pipes downward appropriately.

/r0/download/1···wall.jpg

If you want to see other photos of the project, the full thread was here:
»Drain/waste/vent project planning

Edit: Grr. Linking images never works right for me: »/r0/download/1···wall.jpg )
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ropeguru
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Mechanicsville, VA

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reply to djrobx
said by djrobx:

said by robbin:

Ok -- where does it decrease?

Look at the join in the pipes, the opening that continues downward is smaller.

Maybe it's central vac piping!

-- Rob

That looks to me to be the vent stack. Seems to me the typical "flow" of a vent stack is from bottom to top. So that would be an increase and not a reducer.


LazMan
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canada
reply to Plumber
Is it a stack or a vent?

Code here is that a vent has to upsize to (I think) 3" or 3.5" before it goes through the roof, to minimize the chances of snow/ice plugging it.

If it IS a vent, while odd to upsize where it does, it may be code compliant. The T-Wye is upside down, though; I think. It's just odd from top to bottom. Not necessarily "wrong" - but odd...

If it's a stack - well, then it's wrong.


ropeguru
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said by LazMan:

Is it a stack or a vent?

Code here is that a vent has to upsize to (I think) 3" or 3.5" before it goes through the roof, to minimize the chances of snow/ice plugging it.

If it IS a vent, while odd to upsize where it does, it may be code compliant. The T-Wye is upside down, though; I think. It's just odd from top to bottom. Not necessarily "wrong" - but odd...

If it's a stack - well, then it's wrong.

Curiosity, why would the T-Wye be incorrect? If it is truly only a vent, which appears to the be case, you wouldn't want the flow to travel down then back up, would you? For the intended purpose it seems correct to me.

Additionally, for any condenstation or water back flow, ie rain, the upward connection would also be correct as itt would naturally drain back to a fixture and go down the pipe leading to the sewer.


VegasMan
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reply to Plumber
TP in wrong place. Should be on side of toilet and not sink.
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reply to aroberti
said by aroberti:

Why in the world would someone install the toilet and sink before sheetrocking?

Someone had to go poopoo


plowjockey

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reply to Plumber
I dunno... I did some remodeling in the bathroom too, years ago... actually had 2 working toilets in that same room for 24 hours until they got the good one hooked up in the street...... Actually had the same type wall in there too, for a few hours........... but yeah.. there seems to be an issue with the vent hookup...


tp0d
yabbazooie
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reply to robbin
said by robbin:

Ok -- where does it decrease?

dont feel like messin with paint for a visual, but national plumbing code states a vent stack may not be smaller than the largest attached drainage fixture. There is a toilet next to the stack, it is indubitably using that vent stack for its vent, thus must be 3" minimum throughout.

the 2x3 bushing in the run of the wye is illegal, and can cause issues with venting.

where the funk is the op? damn hit and runs

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StillLearn
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said by tp0d:

said by robbin:

Ok -- where does it decrease?

dont feel like messin with paint for a visual, but national plumbing code states a vent stack may not be smaller than the largest attached drainage fixture. There is a toilet next to the stack, it is indubitably using that vent stack for its vent, thus must be 3" minimum throughout.

2-inch toilet vent. 4-inch vent stack. 4 is not smaller than 2.


tp0d
yabbazooie
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what does the word throughout mean to you? and are you a plumber, bychance