 jjoshuaPremium
join:2001-06-01
Scotch Plains, NJ
kudos:3 | reply to Raphion
Re: The roots of the problem Nice trick. A clean and easy solution. |
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Well, I'm all done now, cept for filling the hole and replacing paver stones and what not.
The tile came out in three or four pieces, they were only staying together due to surrounding dirt and roots:
Here's the PVC extended to cover the gap left by the broken tile:
Seems like such a simple task in hindsight, but nice to have it tacked before it actually collapsed.
I suppose other tiles may soon meet the same fate, but things are ok now, for a while at least. |
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 TA63ST215WPremium,MVM
join:2000-11-23
there
kudos:2 | How far south are you? |
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | From the pics I would say far enough that the ground doesn't freeze. |
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Florida.
Why do you ask? Does the ground or the (lack of) depth of the sewer seem strange to a northerner? lol
If the ground froze here, you can be sure that hell froze over first. |
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TA63ST215WPremium,MVM
join:2000-11-23
there
kudos:2 | Yes, it is strange to see the pipes so close to the surface.
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| said by TA63:Yes, it is strange to see the pipes so close to the surface.
Yeh, it's only about 3 feet down at that point, where it's coming out from under the slab. The city main it connects with is less than 5 feet down, and is also made of clay. Although they contracted with a company called "Insituform" to have them all lined with plastic. They weren't so generous as to line mine while they were at it though. |
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | 3' -- wow that's deep. I have some that are about 14" to the top. |
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| said by robbin:3' -- wow that's deep. I have some that are about 14" to the top.
Might only be two or two and a half feet to the top of the pipe, but my hole was 3 feet deep. =p
There's no more hole now, I used a hose to make a nice mud stew, throwing all the dirt into the water so it settled down nice and firm. |
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sk1939Premium
join:2010-10-23
Washington, DC
kudos:9 Reviews:
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said by robbin:3' -- wow that's deep. I have some that are about 14" to the top.
Hah. 13 feet down here...and after about 2 feet you hit nice, thick clay. Still surprising to see lines buried so shallow. What happens when excavation is done? |
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 cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM
join:2003-05-14
Fort Wayne, IN
kudos:7 | reply to Raphion
said by Raphion:If the ground froze here, you can be sure that hell froze over first. Freezing is one thing. But the further down you go, the lower the chance that roots reach it to cause damage. It doesn't eliminate the possibility, just lessens it. |
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robbinPremium,MVM
join:2000-09-21
Leander, TX
kudos:1 | said by cdru:Freezing is one thing. But the further down you go... the more expensive and disruptive it is when it fails and has to be repaired/replaced in the future |
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said by sk1939:said by robbin:3' -- wow that's deep. I have some that are about 14" to the top.
Hah. 13 feet down here...and after about 2 feet you hit nice, thick clay. Still surprising to see lines buried so shallow. What happens when excavation is done? Not sure what you mean by excavation. There's nothing deeper than the sewers and water mains here, which generally run 5 or 6 feet down. Nobody has basements or anything subterranean here, because the water comes too high. In rainy season, you only need to dig down four or five feet to hit water.
13 feet down is unimaginable to me. Talk about impossible to ever work on without taking out a loan. |
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sk1939Premium
join:2010-10-23
Washington, DC
kudos:9 Reviews:
·T-Mobile US
| said by Raphion:said by sk1939:said by robbin:3' -- wow that's deep. I have some that are about 14" to the top.
Hah. 13 feet down here...and after about 2 feet you hit nice, thick clay. Still surprising to see lines buried so shallow. What happens when excavation is done? Not sure what you mean by excavation. There's nothing deeper than the sewers and water mains here, which generally run 5 or 6 feet down. Nobody has basements or anything subterranean here, because the water comes too high. In rainy season, you only need to dig down four or five feet to hit water. 13 feet down is unimaginable to me. Talk about impossible to ever work on without taking out a loan. Ah, well that makes sense, the lack of basements would mean no excavation for things like basements and foundation work. I remember distinctly a backhoe and a 11 foot dirt pile in my front yard, plus a device to make sure that it didn't cave in on them. The price tag was costly too, was something in the ballpark of $6000 if I recall. |
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said by cdru:said by Raphion:If the ground froze here, you can be sure that hell froze over first. Freezing is one thing. But the further down you go, the lower the chance that roots reach it to cause damage. It doesn't eliminate the possibility, just lessens it. Of course, if roots do reach it down there, then replacement / fix can turn out to be a lot more involved and costly.
Here, in many places usually there's a roughly 1' or so topsoil, then some heavy clay mixed with pebble stones or gravel. A piss poor soil, so there's not a whole roots in that region.
Except when there's a sewer line down there. (like mine  )
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said by Raphion:13 feet down is unimaginable to me. Talk about impossible to ever work on without taking out a loan.
Same here. Where my line exits the house is maybe 6" down, of course it does a 45 degree downward bend toward the septic tank shortly thereafter. 13 feet down would blow my mind. |
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