 nascar
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4 edits | FiOS TV... an attempt to offer more channels |
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crgauth
join:2004-05-18
Glen Burnie, MD | Re: FiOS TV... an attempt to offer more channel Nice for FIOS to want to do that. What incentive do the content providers have to go along with it?
That's the reason we have some many of these channels.
They bundle them together and tell the cable companies they have to take all or none.
It would be interesting to see how long the .TV channels stick around.
But we will never know what the numbers are anyway. |
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 NezmoThe name's Bond. James Bond.Premium,MVM
join:2004-11-10
Coppell, TX
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Re: FiOS TV... an attempt to offer more channels »Verizon Wants to Pay Broadcasters Based on Unique Viewers
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Mac973
join:2009-05-18
West Orange, NJ | reply to nascar
The articles seem to have different perspectives. One article says that Verizon would not carry certain networks at all if there wasn't enough gauged interest. I'd be curious to know what their threshold is for number of customers watching that is considered enough to keep the channel around. But another article says that Verizon would only pay a fee to the carrier based on number of unique viewers. So that seems to suggest the networks would still be carried, but Verizon would not have to pay for every customer. |
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| It's hard to understand where Verizon is coming from with this given the recent news that they will soon be adding 2 new .tv Byron Allen channels which according to various forum post suggest are a massive waste. Giving us a grand total of 8 .tv HD channels makes no sense when nobody requests these and no other carrier offers.
If they only want to offer or charge what people watch why are they expanding these kind of channels? Kind of double talk don't you think? |
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| said by robertf390:It's hard to understand where Verizon is coming from with this given the recent news that they will soon be adding 2 new .tv Byron Allen channels which according to various forum post suggest are a massive waste. Giving us a grand total of 8 .tv HD channels makes no sense when nobody requests these and no other carrier offers.
If they only want to offer or charge what people watch why are they expanding these kind of channels? Kind of double talk don't you think?
We are not the average viewer. I'm sure the mouthbreathing general public loves being spammed with infomercials on Byron Allen's crapfests.
This is a bad thing. All the best channels are poorly watched. Crap like ESPN, MTV, and History overshadow quality like H2.
We will never see H2 HD if Verizon adds channels based on ratings. |
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interesting. |
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Very interesting.
If this goes through, I hope that we can get all the channels that are in our package, but FiOS would only have to pay for the channels we watch. As an individual, not as a group.
For example, I can get MTV, OWN etc. I do not watch them at all. I sure do not want to pay for them if I don't watch them. FiOS should not either.
I do not know how the packages will be if this goes through, all I know is that as a customer, I do not want any channels taken away in my package for the sole purpose of "no one watches them, so we are dropping them." What If I was the only one to watch that channel?
I say still have them avaliable to us, just do not pay for the channel, unless I as an UU watches it. And because I do not watch them, make my Bill a little lower as well. To me, that makes sense. |
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Mac973
join:2009-05-18
West Orange, NJ | said by webcobbler:I say still have them avaliable to us, just do not pay for the channel, unless I as an UU watches it. And because I do not watch them, make my Bill a little lower as well. To me, that makes sense.
There is absolutely zero chance of anyone's bill getting lower. If anything it may just increase at a slower rate than it would have otherwise, but even that is a longshot. |
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 More FiberPremium,MVM
join:2005-09-26
West Chester, PA
kudos:28 | reply to webcobbler
said by webcobbler:I do not want any channels taken away in my package for the sole purpose of "no one watches them, so we are dropping them." Are you arguing to keep Byron Allen's .crap channels? 
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antioch
join:2007-10-06
Pomona, CA
kudos:1 | My hope is, if Verizon can pull this out... Maybe we can start building our own channel lineups.
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I Agree. They def do have to add H2 HD. |
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Hey, I never said that. Lol |
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join:2009-07-01
Collegeville, PA | reply to nascar
Unless this change will lower my bill, prevents future price hikes, or keeps/returns/adds niche channels then it really doesn't benefit customers.
I know it won't lower the bill (almost nothing short of downgrading/switching service ever does) so I'm hopeful that if VZ sees more revenue saved that it'll prevent future rate hikes without forcing them to drop niche or less popular channels like they have in the past. They might even be able to bring back some of those already dropped channels (FUNimation for example) and add others never before on the lineup if it makes business sense to have them paying only for those viewers that watch them.
If it can't do it any of the above then it's meaningless to FiOS customers and only meaningful to Verizon's profits. |
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said by More Fiber:said by webcobbler:I do not want any channels taken away in my package for the sole purpose of "no one watches them, so we are dropping them." Are you arguing to keep Byron Allen's .crap channels? I heard that people actually watch the .crap channels. Apparently they get decent ratings in Verizon's internal metrics.
Remember, WWE is the highest rated show on cable TV. People loooove crap. |
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I have to laugh at your assertion that based on your particular taste in tv shows, and the fact that you spend time on a TV service's message board, that you are somehow smarter and more sophisticated than the mouth breathing sports fans. But, whatever.
I don't know why Verizon is focusing in on this issue anyway. Seems the bigger problem is in fact the channels like ESPN and the various RSNs that have decent ratings, but at the same time it is the same probably 30% of people at most watching them. Yet we're all paying $20-$30 a month for these few channels. Eventually technology is going to allow them to broadcast an unlimited amount of channels anyway, so I don't see bandwidth being the issue.
The only channels that will be affected are small independent channels, which probably only charge a couple pennies a month at most anyway. |
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crgauth
join:2004-05-18
Glen Burnie, MD | reply to nascar
Another article about a la carte.
Seems that Verizon and Cablevision are unlikely partners.
»www.washingtonpost.com/business/···y_1.html |
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Re: FiOS TV... an attempt to offer more channels ala carte is never happening. and I don't see what Verizon proves by dropping channels yet still are forced to pay the same rate to the big providers like Fox, MTV, or AMC? |
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Tested
join:2008-01-19
Plano, TX | reply to nascar
I'm not sure I entirely understand what Verizon wants to do.
It seems to me this needs more explanation. Would love to know what channels might be in jeopardy.
I still maintain that Verizon could pull off an interesting trick: get rid of all the SD versions of current HD channels. My HD cable box has an SD output that downconverts the HD channels into a letterboxed SD format. That would free up plenty of bandwidth for new HD channels. |
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